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ZANNA 26th Apr 2006 19:44

new base
 
for those of you getting excited about a lisbon base i would suggest you hold off applying if you are not interested in working elsewhere for a good while. the latest rumour is that the new base will be in madrid (although this seems to be changing every week), and you have to stay at your initial base for ar least six months before you can transfer somewhere else anyway. also if you go to a busy base like gatwick (though most are at the mo) you could be waiting even longer before getting a transfer, although this could work in your favour because if you do a year and get senior, you might be lucky enough to go to a nice shiny new base as a number 1.:ok:

rubik101 29th Apr 2006 08:09

The last word?
 
Sorry to bring this up again folks but this sort of thing really gets in my craw!

Mr Dromey, on the 16th of April wrote; 'Crews are all poorly turned out and trained.'

After my post pointing out this was factually incorrect, he wrote; 'Untill then I stand by every last one of my opinions, observations and statments.'

On the 17th April he wrote; 'I have never called into question the issue of safety on any easyJet(or other airline) flight, I do not know enough about the safety standards imposed by the relevant authorities...and the airlines involved. To do so would be highly unfair and irresponsable on my part.'

Later he wrote; OK, for the final time, I never knocked the safety aspect of U2s' training.

But you see Mr. Dromey, you did knock easyJet training. You said; 'Crews are all poorly turned out and trained.'

If you would care to retract that statement regarding training then you will most certainly have the last word.

If, as you say, you don't know enough about safety standards etc, then why mention such things in the first place? Ifyou do not know what you are talking about Mr. Dromey, then why be unfair and irresponsible, as you say, and post here at all?

The latest rumour I have heard is that there will be 2 new bases announced shortly!

OltonPete 29th Apr 2006 12:14

Two new bases?
 
Do we know if these are in the UK or mainland Europe?

The most noticeable lack of orange in the UK is of course BHX & MAN, are either of these in the frame now or likely to be in the future?

Both do not have any real major FR presence and in BHX's case probably
never will going by the previous spats.

Both have been accused of not being LCC friendly in respect of charges
(rightly or wrongly?) but surely for both airports it would be a major coup.

I know Liverpool serves the North West for Easyjet but the Midlands is a
different story. The EMA base was inherited from Go and although there
has been some tinkering on the whole Easy have not done much recently.

From the outside (don't work in the industry) it appears that in BHX's case
it is lack of flexibility with charges (or upsetting BA etc) could be the reason or is it simply a case that Easy are just not interested?

OltonPete

thomsonfly.com 29th Apr 2006 13:06

OltonPete

I simply cannot see any reason why easyJet would want to enter either the BHX or MAN market. EZY have a good relationship with Peel Holdings who own LPL, and believe have a contract to operate flights from that airport for some time in the future. Why spread yourself across a couple of airports when you can ensure you have a real strongholding in one? Manchester is a major base for other low cost airlines (Jet2, bmibaby, Monarch, BA Connect, flybe) whilst Liverpool is very much EZY's stomping ground despite competition from FR. Similarly with EMA, I can't see EZY setting up from BHX. BHX is well covered by existing low-cost airlines, and if EZY were really to leave EMA (I know there hasn't been much growth but neither have there been rumblings of discontent) surely DSA owned by Peel would be a more realistic alternative?

phil_2405 29th Apr 2006 14:36

Does anyone know why easyJet have failed to expand at EMA?
Ops not as profitable as at most other bases? poor relationship with airport management? lack of capacity now Ryanair have made it a base? :confused:

Stanstedeye 29th Apr 2006 16:24

phil_2405

Add STN to EMA ?

BDKLEZ 30th Apr 2006 12:41


Originally Posted by thomsonfly.com
OltonPete

surely DSA owned by Peel would be a more realistic alternative?

This is certainly my understanding of the situation. U2 are very keen to further their existing business relations with Peel and DSA is a most likely development in the relatively near future.

At present, demand is being assessed on the services operating into DSA with the Swiss aircraft and crew.

MAN & BHX are absolute non starters! (IMHO!)

:ok:

airhumberside 30th Apr 2006 15:26

Easyjet have dropped DSA-GVA for the summer. I dont know if this was planned or not when the route started but if it wasnt then its not a very good sign for future EZY development at DSA

ezpz 30th Apr 2006 15:43

DSA-GVA was always going to be a seasonal ski route.

STN makes all its money in the summer and very little in the winter. EMA makes very little money at all, so further expansion there is unlikely.

MAN is too close to LPL and the landing charges and slot availabilty would make expantion there unlikely.

BHX could be a possibilty. The competition would produce very low seat yields, so again unlikely.

The UK market is very saturated, so I am expecting to see new crew bases in mainland Europe. Could even be outside the EU.

dwlpl 30th Apr 2006 18:41

I think that EZY will put some routes eventually through MAN (and BHX) as a spoiler (a la Ryanair) if nothing else.

FLYboh 30th Apr 2006 18:58

Does anyone have an idea when the winter schedules will be released. Am hoping to see GVA - BOH return as I didn't get a chance to use it this winter.
Cheers :ok:

OltonPete 30th Apr 2006 20:19


Originally Posted by ezpz
DSA-GVA was always going to be a seasonal ski route.

STN makes all its money in the summer and very little in the winter. EMA makes very little money at all, so further expansion there is unlikely.

MAN is too close to LPL and the landing charges and slot availabilty would make expantion there unlikely.

BHX could be a possibilty. The competition would produce very low seat yields, so again unlikely.

The UK market is very saturated, so I am expecting to see new crew bases in mainland Europe. Could even be outside the EU.

They could base two aircraft to do Italy alone from BHX - a bit of
an embarrassment at present with the sum total - 2 BA Connect 145's
a day (one at weekends) to MXP from airport with over 9 million pax. Probably not enough to support a base but at least virtually no competition. Shame they do Venice and Rome from East Mids (with such high load factors) as I suppose it would be a bit pointless offering the same destinations 40 miles away (though Baby do on some routes).

OltonPete

bar none 30th Apr 2006 21:36

After losing £50m in the last six months (Sunday Telegraph business news), are Easyjet going to expand anywhere.

easy 1st May 2006 09:18

Oh not again! Easy make a first half loss every year, and a nice full year profit!! :} :)

ezpz 1st May 2006 21:30


Originally Posted by bar none
After losing £50m in the last six months (Sunday Telegraph business news), are Easyjet going to expand anywhere.

If EZY dont expand they will lose even more money. In this business you expand or you die. Standing still would mean Ryanair and the others taking more market share. EZY is comitted to 15% growth this year. A new A319 is arriving every week other the summer. Shame we have no cabin crew or pilots to put on them :(

EarthOrbitor 2nd May 2006 12:02

base leak
 
according to the rumour (leaked from easyjet) one of the bases is BOH Bournemouth. the airport is closing in on a deal and it is thought that up to two aircraft will initially be ear-marked for the airport from autumn 2006. Routes mentioned included France, Spain, Italy and Germany as well as several UK cities (BFS, EDI, NCL)

Stanstedeye 6th May 2006 16:31

standing still
 

Originally Posted by ezpz
If EZY dont expand they will lose even more money. In this business you expand or you die. Standing still would mean Ryanair and the others taking more market share. EZY is comitted to 15% growth this year. A new A319 is arriving every week other the summer. Shame we have no cabin crew or pilots to put on them :(

Well there is very liitle expansion at STN, if any. Could it be said that EZY have the wrong sized aircraft, for if FR are getting better results with their 800's it certainly makes you think that they have.

Ametyst 6th May 2006 17:19

The reason there is no expansion by easyJet at Stansted has nothing to do with aircraft size, it is a lack of suitable slots at Stansted.

Stanstedeye 6th May 2006 19:49

Ametyst

And how did you come to that conclusion may I ask? when other companies do not appear to have a problem.

Ametyst 6th May 2006 19:57

Ryanair tinkers with its schedule to fit in new flights. They have no plans to add any more based aircraft this year. Other airlines have been able to fit more flights in during slack times on a 'W' basis operating from & to their overseas base. Ryanair and easyJet cannot get any further slots for early morning departures or late evening arrivals. That is how come to that conclusion! In addition Stansted has a cap on the number of movements they can handle.


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