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virginblue 18th Nov 2007 12:07

@ airman13

My understanding is that Wizz will base a second A320 at Bucarest and a first A320 at Cluj Napoca.

like_to_fly 27th Nov 2007 22:36

Wizzair Email
 
Hello everybody !

Maybe a little bit off topic ... but I need your help.
Anybody here having the email of the human resources department of wizzair. Feel free to send me a pm.
I do not mean the email [email protected] .
Need something for groundstaff and so on.
Anybody here knows if the have part-time positions for students at their bases ?

Thanks everybody !!!!!

Charlie Roy 4th Dec 2007 11:13

New route (I think)
 
Warsaw to Doncaster

LGS6753 4th Dec 2007 14:56

Warsaw to Doncaster is indeed a new route, announced today (3x per week from 1st April 2008).

Wizzair currently have scheduled 90 flights per week into Luton for summer 2008, excluding any new destinations (of which a further 2 are likely to be announced shortly).

darren1 4th Dec 2007 18:43

What might the 2 new routes be? SJJ and SKP?

Powerjet1 4th Dec 2007 18:59

Bourgas is back for S08, LTN 3 x weekly starting 12 May.

jamesp 7th Dec 2007 21:49

rumour has it that wizz is to start either poznan or budapest from coventry next year. is this just rumours or is there any truth in this comment.

en2r 7th Dec 2007 22:48


Is that really a good idea, when Ryanair have just started both BUD and POZ from EMA, which is not far at all from COV. When will other smaller airlines learn, Ryanair will just undercut them till the route is dropped.
I wouldn't write off Wizzair Lee. They have an inherent advantage over Ryanair. Eastern Europeans prefer travelling on Eastern European Airlines, even if they have to pay a little more. Look how Wizz drove Ryanair off Stockholm-Gdansk and Krakow, and Hahn-Krakow. Wizz also regularly have free flight offers, just pay taxes and charges, so Ryanair do not always beat them on price! Ryanair are not invincible!
(If you want more proof about how Ryanair are not invincible look how Aer Arann, a small Irish airline which uses turboprops has remained on the Cork-Dublin in the face of huge competition on the route from Ryanair. They achieve higher load factors on the route than FR despite the fact that their fares are several multiples of those of Ryanair! Bully boy tactics don't always work)

SeamusCVT 8th Dec 2007 08:53

I would have thought that FR's biggest competiter on the EMA-POZ would be W6 from DSA?

anna_list 8th Dec 2007 09:02

W6 vs FR
 
@en2r: Minor point: FR have never flown from Stockholm to Krakow. It has also worked the other way too, with W6 dropping HHN-BUD just as FR started flying the route.

In my view, FR vs W6 will be a key battle over the next couple of years (if it lasts that long). Both airlines have flooded the UK - Poland market with capacity and have emerged as the market leaders. The most recent figures (Q1 2007) showed that FR were already Poland's second largest airline by passengers carried, behind LOT and just ahead of W6, despite not having any aircraft based there.

I can see Wizzair becoming an increasing source of irritation to FR as they ramp up the number of connections from traditional FR airports (BOH, PIK, LPL, CRL, NYO etc) on routes that FR might have planned for themselves in the future.

I have still to see any evidence that Wizzair have made a single penny of profit so far. So far they are still running on private money. There was talk earlier this year of a possible floatation, but this hasn't happened. How deep are those pockets?

Charlie Roy 8th Dec 2007 10:52

I get the impression that the big boys at Ryanair seem to have decided to let Wizz Air be for the moment, letting them establish and have free reign on many Ryanair-esque routes. With the strategy being that once the routes are nicely established, Ryanair'll move in for the kill and in one year wipe them out, taking over all their routes.

airhumberside 8th Dec 2007 18:21

I take it one advantage Wizz has over FR is Eastern European bases, with crew being cheaper to employ in Eastern rather Western Europe

eu01 9th Dec 2007 14:32


Originally Posted by airhumberside (Post 3758268)
I take it one advantage Wizz has over FR is Eastern European bases, with crew being cheaper to employ in Eastern rather Western Europe

Let's notice however that nothing would stop FR from basing some aircrafts in Central-Eastern Europe almost immediately if they just decided to. Ryanair instead prefers to haggle about the conditions (airport fees and alike) making very few progress in that matter. The crew and maintenance are cheaper now, but in a few years the costs of creating and keeping the bases will rise in this area as well. It's up to Ryanair will they be fast enough to enjoy these lower costs of labour or will they be late. Not every airport in, say, Poland, is as pricey as Warsaw or Krakow. Others like Wroclaw, Poznan, Gdansk or Lodz are much cheaper and I'd believe, they are prepared to struck a deal.

laqu 10th Mar 2008 19:49

New Kiev Base
 
WizzAir is said to announce a new base in Kiev soon. They want to start serving Ukraine this year. They are now recruiting the crew. It is believed that at the biginning there will be one aircraft in this base flying to Katowice to make the passangers able to change the planes for another W6 flights out of KTW. WizzAir will set up a new brand called WizzAir Ukraine. A week before there was a meeting between Polish and Ukrainian goverments making KTW and KRK next Polish airports to be able to serve flights to Ukraine so that makes this rumour more believeble. In My opinion it is a great step for WizzAir to be the first LCC in Ukraine.

pee 7th Apr 2008 08:05

Wizzair in Finland
 
Last Wednesday Wizzair has started flying to Finland and its very first route links Gdansk to Turku (where it became the first airline to use a new low-cost terminal). It will be interesting to observe the development here, because until now just one truely no-frills carrier is known in Finland (Ryanair flying to TMP).

As far as I know the bookings are going well and (assuming travel forums are relevant as the opinion polls) some other typical Wizzair destinations like BUD, Bulgarian coast or KTW/Krakow could also become popular here. :D

Btw (edit). It's interesting to estimate the travellers' preferencies by counting the hits received by different countries on travel forums (like in Finland Suomi24.fi/matkailu). Spain, Italy, Bulgaria(!) and Turkey get the most.

cesare.caldi 7th Apr 2008 22:27

Why Finnish people love Bulgaria?

pee 8th Apr 2008 07:23


Why Finnish people love Bulgaria?
Plenty of sun, sandy beaches and... so called "CHEAP" flights :ugh: (meaning you can get the return ticket for around 300 euros, people think it's cheap as there are no low-cost flights from Finland to South-European resorts at all).

MUFC_fan 8th Apr 2008 10:54

Loving the Wizzair advertisement on their homepage!

Liverpool/Manchester;) - Warsaw and Katowice.

:}:}:}

Charlie Roy 8th Apr 2008 11:01

Strange to see Wizz spliting thier routes between 2 airports for some destinations:

Barcelona: BCN + GRO
Rome: FCO + CIA
Stockholm: VST + NYO

pee 8th Apr 2008 11:49

  • BCN/GRO: don't know why.
  • FCO/CIA. It's probably impossible to get new slots (or anyway to increase the number of flights) at CIA, that's why they can add some new routes to FCO only.
  • VST/NYO. Trying out Västerĺs and considering a total moving from NYO???

pwalhx 8th Apr 2008 11:53

Liverpool/Manchester
 
Wizzair seem to brand all their flights to Liverpool as being Liverpool/Manchester.

I flew with them recently, albeit from Luton not Liverpool and was amused by the fact that they dual brand the airport and the destination guide including both cities.

Interestingly they also show Coventry/Birmingham.

I guess this is for the benefit of overseas visitors as it is unlikely to fool the locals.

Charlie Roy 8th Apr 2008 12:21

In their inflight magazine their Durham page tells all about Newcastle :}

TBSC 23rd Apr 2008 22:16


  • BCN/GRO: don't know why.
  • FCO/CIA. It's probably impossible to get new slots (or anyway to increase the number of flights) at CIA, that's why they can add some new routes to FCO only.
  • VST/NYO. Trying out Västerĺs and considering a total moving from NYO???

- FCO/CIA : correct
- VST/NYO: don't think so
- BCN/GRO: BCN is used for romanian/bulgarian routes (better for workers), GRO is used for leisure routes from Hungary/Poland (closer to Costa Brava and of course a lot cheaper).

eu01 24th Apr 2008 20:15

Wizz Air Ukraine opens Kiev base
 
A new chapter in the low-cost development in Europe?

Wizz Air Ukraine announced at a press conference in Kiev today that it would start operating an initial network of seven Ukrainian domestic routes from its operating base at Kiev Boryspil Airport on 11 July 2008. Wizz Air Ukraine will provide low fare air travel service from Kiev Boryspil Airport to Lviv, Odessa, Simferopol, Kharkov and Zaporozhye. Flights from Lviv and Kharkov to Simferopol, the popular Krym resort will also be available to the Ukrainian travellers.

Wizz Air Ukraine’s new routes include:
Kiev – Lviv 4 flights/week
Kiev - Kharkov 4 flights/week
Kiev - Odessa 7 flights/week
Kyiv - Zaporozhye 3 flights/week
Kiev - Simferopol 10 flights/week
Simferopol – Kharkov 3 flights/week
Simferopol – Lviv 4 flights/week

Ticket sales will be opened on 24 April with all inclusive fares starting from as low as UAH 79.
Wizz Air Ukraine will operate brand new Airbus A320 aircraft configured with 180 leather seats offering low fares and convenient air travel experience to the Ukrainian public.
“Today is a milestone event in the development of Wizz Air as well as for the Ukrainian traveling public. Wizz Air Ukraine’s high quality service and low fares will change the dynamics of the Ukrainian transportation market. Now all those who never thought of flying before will have the opportunity to travel fast, safely and comfortably on our new Airbus A320 aircraft for the fraction of the current prices.” - said Natália Kázmér, Director General of Wizz Air Ukraine. “Wizz Air Ukraine has ambitious plans to quickly expand its operations by adding international routes and more domestic services, opening further operating bases in various regions in Ukraine and ultimately deploying an increasing number of aircraft.” - she added.
Undoubtlessly, it's a truely innovative move on the part of lccs trying to explore a vast potential out there. Which will be the first lo-co to snatch a piece of a (much bigger) Russian market?

Buster the Bear 24th Apr 2008 20:51

Well they call Luton, London...or is it, London-Luton?

Liverpool to Manchester is a similar distance (city to city).

Lviv, that will please my friend if they venture towards London....Luton!

JulietNovemberPapa 25th Apr 2008 10:37

Excellent news!

The article stated that the flights would be bookable from the 24th April = yesterday. But nothing's yet loaded on its website. Anyone know why?

Anyone know what W6's CASM is?

JulietNovemberPapa 25th Apr 2008 11:34

OK, it's all loaded now. Woohoo.

DTVAirport 13th May 2008 19:00

Are Wizz pulling an aircraft out of Warsaw? Hopefully it's nothing, but MME, BFS and DTM are only bookable until mid-September, along with their summer only routes (BOJ, CFU etc) and PIK, LPL and LTN are all losing rotations? Does anyone know anything?

en2r 13th May 2008 22:31


Are Wizz pulling an aircraft out of Warsaw? Hopefully it's nothing, but MME, BFS and DTM are only bookable until mid-September, along with their summer only routes (BOJ, CFU etc) and PIK, LPL and LTN are all losing rotations? Does anyone know anything?
I doubt it. Centralwings are after axing a significant proportion of its Polish based network so presumably Wizz will want to capitalise on this. They're probably just late loading the routes. Wizz are often quite late loading routes.

LGS6753 14th May 2008 10:23

It could be true
 
There have been a number of services from Gdansk axed recently (see Gdansk thread). If the some of the massive wave of Polish immigrants is returning to their homeland, demand on all Polish routes will diminish.

I think Centralwings must be a basket case (their CEO seems to think so), so Wizz may pick up pax from them, but if the market is shrinking, the contraction of CW may not help overall.

kingston_toon 14th May 2008 12:10

All change in Ukraine already
 
It looks like Wizz have had a bit of a shuffle around before the first flight has even taken off!

Originally, they planned to do this:

Route Frequency
Kiev – Lviv 4 flights/week
Kiev - Kharkov 4 flights/week
Kiev - Odessa 7 flights/week
Kyiv - Zaporozhye 3 flights/week
Kiev - Simferopol 10 flights/week
Simferopol – Kharkov 3 flights/week
Simferopol – Lviv 4 flights/week

Now they are doing this:

Route Frequency
Kiev – Lviv 6 flights/week
Kiev - Kharkov 0 flights/week
Kiev - Odessa 6 flights/week
Kyiv - Zaporozhye 0 flights/week

Kiev - Simferopol 8 flights/week
Simferopol – Kharkov 0 flights/week
Simferopol – Lviv 8 flights/week

So some winners (Simferopol to Lviv) and some losers (Zaporozhye and Kharkov completely). Seems they are going for the bucket-and-spade market, rather than linking cities.

aeroarce 14th May 2008 19:00

wizzair 2009
 
Hi you all!
Wizzair was supossed to receive 8 or 9 aircrafts in 2009, and I've recently heard that they may cancel some of them and may only receive 2 aircrafts.
Does anyone have any more information?
I know they are having finacial problems. but are so big so as to cut so many aircrafts?
Thank you very much!

LGS6753 14th May 2008 21:44

What makes you think they are having financial problems?

aeroarce 15th May 2008 07:00

As long as I Know
 
Well, as long as I know they are cutting all the office personal they can and also the Fuel charges are reising a lot.

Powerjet1 15th May 2008 13:11

Apologies if this has been reported before, but it seems that the Katowice-LGW is "pulled", and is no longer bookable. When did his happen ?

eu01 23rd May 2008 16:08

Wizz Air Ukraine launches international flights from Kiev
 
I wouldn't say it's something "breathtaking", but Wizzair's development in Ukraine should be watched very carefully, they are trying to be the low-cost leader not only in Central Europe, but more to the East as well... and it's a vast market.

Wizz Air Ukraine, the first low fare - low cost airline in Ukraine announced during the airline’s Kiev-Odessa-Kiev demonstration flight today that it intended to operate international routes to London Luton, Dortmund and Milan Bergamo from its Kiev base later this year. The company will provide affordable and comfortable travel to many Ukrainian holidaymakers and millions of students and workers who live abroad and will now have the opportunity to travel back to Ukraine for less and consequently more often. The new flights are planned to start from 15 September and will complement the airline’s domestic network. The start of ticket sales for the international flights remains subject to regulatory approvals expected to take place in the course of July.

Wizz Air Ukraine’s [international] schedule:

Kiev - London Luton* 3 flights/week
Kiev - Dortmund* 3 flights/week
Kiev - Milan Bergamo* 3 flights/week
*Subject to regulatory approvals

(...)
"Today's announcement of our intent to launch international routes from Kiev and the very first Wizz Air Kiev-Odessa demonstration flights are new milestones in the development of Wizz Air Ukraine. We are pleased to make the next steps as we have been experiencing excessive demand for low fare air tickets by the Ukrainian people since we started sales a couple of weeks ago." – said Natasa Kázmér, Director General of Wizz Air Ukraine.

TBSC 25th May 2008 19:38


Wizzair was supossed to receive 8 or 9 aircrafts in 2009, and I've recently heard that they may cancel some of them and may only receive 2 aircrafts.


Well, as long as I know they are cutting all the office personal they can
Company actually trying to have earlier deliveries for all a/c planned for 2009 (maybe you mean SkyEurope ?? :)). Not a single job has been cut, only a hiring ban took place recently on office jobs.

TBSC 25th May 2008 19:40


Apologies if this has been reported before, but it seems that the Katowice-LGW is "pulled", and is no longer bookable.
It was only to keep Ryanair off from KTW anyway.

mmeteesside 5th Jun 2008 10:44

Anyone know whether Wizz are just late loading routes or if Warsaw to Belfast, Bourgas, Brussels-Charleroi, Corfu, Cork, Durham Tees Valley are all dropped after the week ending 14th September? All other routes from Warsaw are bookable until the end of the summer in October (with the exception of Luton which is until end of March 2009). :confused:

Coka 8th Jul 2008 04:40

Wizzair
 
What do you think how will Wizzair perform in this high fuel prices environment. It is obvious now that it is a downturn in economy and airline industry. Wizzair is going for quite a big market (Eastern Europe), that is true, but majority of people in the east can afford to spend much less on travel then the guys in the west. If oil price is high inflation goes up and people have even less extra money to spend on travel. Wizzair ordered a lot’s of Airbuses! Will they cancel the orders, will they delay planes, will they go for 82 airplanes or will they stick with 20 plus or minus that they have now? What do you think?


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