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I heard Ryanair may start LPL to Lviv All this said, I have been surprised for some time now that easyJet have ignored points in Eastern Europe outside of the EU (and the Ukraine is probably the biggest market available to the for UK originating flights that isn't Russia...which is a whole different ball park for traffic rights!) |
WIZZAIR is going to transfer her Warsaw's base to Modlin
Wizz Air Switches Warsaw Network to New Modlin Airport :: Routesonline |
A war with Ryanair in Budapest is becoming a reality now. Let's just compare the routes.
Wizzair:. Destination / frequency Summer 2012
and Ryanair routes:
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From asking around to a few people in the industry Ryanair aren't even close to confirming their flights and still haven't agreed anything with Budapest yet for this so called base.....
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Some Ryanair flights are already on sale. E.g. NYO timetables show BUD based a/c.
I just hope Wizz will be wiser and will try to optimise their routes. For example, both Wizz and Ryan fly to Eindhoven twice daily or more, to different destinations in Sweden over 20 x a week, to entire Finland just twice a week. |
We'll they're listing Warsaw Chopin airport on their site at the moment rather than Modlin for a route to Budapest and a lot of the routes are not even on sale at the moment,
Just saying: Sorry, there are no available flights departing on <dates> The only ones I can get to show up are those previously announced. |
Wizzair to operate to Modlin to/from Budapest.
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Wizzair to operate to Modlin to/from Budapest. |
Flying LTN-BUD with Wizz in a few weeks time, had already booked before FR from STN came on sale for what is about 1/3 price. Wizz timings are better though, return leg BUD-STN leaving at 06:30 so would probably have chosen Wizz from LTN anyway. Not sure if this is something that might potentially help Wizz across the board here?
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Having used both, Wizzair are worse when it comes to disruption, partly due to fleet size which means they can't send an extra plane to fill in for one thet gets held up elsewhere,and they're certainly not as punctual as Ryanair - hence their delay warranty product.
I flew WAW to LTN twice and the crew were terrible. I won't go into too many specifics but lets just say the crew didn't seem to take the job seriously which could have led to a serious accident because his attentions were focused on a female colleague on one flight, and on the second flight, same guy, turned off the lights half way through the flight so he could get romantic with a different girl without anyone seeing. Saying that though I've flew with them about six times on other routes and the crew have been fine and had no problems, the seats are quite nice, perhaps a little bit better than Ryanair but therre really is not much in it, but I won't fly WAW to LTN again simply because of the fact the couple of experiences I had were so bad. The problem (and advantage) that Wizzair have is that they are very well known in Eastern Europe and some parts of central Europe, but in Western Europe, the only people who seemed to have heard of them are migrants who have moved from countries where they are well known, apart from a few exceptions. So I think WAW-BUD they will win that war with Ryanair getting hammered. As for routes from BUD/WMI to Western Europe or the UK and Ireland? I can see them carrying outbound pax to these countries, and also migrants who have moved to Western Europe, but for incoming tourists to Budapest and Modlin I don't think they will manage a whole lot. Ryanair will be much better in that respect. |
Insane. Budapest - Terminal 1 » Warsaw Chopin EUR 2.16 for the return flight... :rolleyes:date: Mon 02 Apr 12 fareclass: SUPER PROMO! flight: W6 2467 departs: BUD 15:30 arrives: WAW 16:45 1 Adult: 300 HUF price: 300 HUF Warsaw Chopin » Budapest - Terminal 1 date: Wed 04 Apr 12 fareclass: SUPER PROMO! flight: W6 2468 departs: WAW 17:15 arrives: BUD 18:30 1 Adult: 300 HUF price: 300 HUF Booking fee 0 HUF total price 600 HUF total price in EUR 2.16 EUR |
Flying LTN-BUD with Wizz in a few weeks time, had already booked before FR from STN came on sale for what is about 1/3 price. |
To be fair when it comes to additions Wizzair have them too, and they even have a club you can join for 30 euro a year which will give you the cheapest fares and a 'delay warranty'. Card fee is a euro more expensive on Wizz as well and they charge a hidden fee on all flights from Ireland, claiming there is a ten euro government tax when it is only three.
Oh and if you are clever right now you can book a Wizzair flight from Chopin to Budapest now for 4PLN - current rates that is 95c. Totally crazy. Wonder if they are getting any subsidy at either or the two ends? Maybe both? Otherwise it's not going to be sustainable for more than a very short while. |
Varadi mentioning launching 10 new routes from Budapest
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In a way, I feel compassion for Wizz. Within two weeks got a competitor on some twenty of its routes and this rival, Ryanair, is probably on of the worst.
I only hope they (W6) will be smart/ wise enough to withdraw or reduce flights on some routes where price war will lead to loss of the profitability. There are still some niche areas in Europe. Like the one from my own country: Lappeenranta (St. Petersburg West). That's the place FR didn't know how to proceed. Wizz knows Eastern Europe better than Ryanair. Targeting Russians in their language, providing the airport transfers across the border, learning to serve a bit different customers. Would be a pity to burn money elsewhere only in the name of competition. |
I think Wizz missed a trick here though, they initially were ahead of the game and got a better deal deal with both Modlin and Budapest than Ryanair, but for some reason, they then started a price war with fares for around a euro between a few destinations which are never going to be sustainable long term for them, but FR are going to be able to sustain it for a lot longer.
They won the first battle but then backed themselves into a corner, as a war with way below cost pricing is at the end of the day will always favour the company with the stronger balance sheet, and the biggest fleet and the lower the prices go the more the smaller rival has to lose. Which makes it all the more bizarre that they resorted to that price the moment that FR announced such routes. Still, Wizz do have a niche and are more well known in the CE and EE market than Ryanair in several countries and can use this to their advantage. There problem will be though I don't think they are going to do that much for inbound tourism to the likes of Budapest and Warsaw because quite frankly you ask an average person in most Western countries and they've never heard of them whilst Ryanair is well known almost everywhere. |
According to Hungarian portfolio.hu MOL has officially declared war on Wizzair.
"The loss-making Wizz Air will not be able to compete with Ryanair either in prices, or costs or precision," O’Leary said. Should Wizz Air continue to battle, Ryanair will offer prices 50% lower than its rival at all times, he added. To demonstrate Wizz Air’s losses, he presented the carrier’s 2011 numbers showing a EUR 8.7 m net loss for last year. Wizzair results according to Ryanair ... http://www.portfolio.hu/img/upload/2...menykekeke.png Bevetel = Income (sales) Bruttó fedezet = Gross profit Muködesi eredmény = Operating result Pénzügyi eredmény = Financial result Adózas elotti eredmény = Pre-tax result Netto eredmény = Net result It was an interesting moment at the press conference when the company distributed the annual report (for the financial year ended on 31 March 2011) of Wizz Air Holdings (registered on the Channel Islands in 2009). With the rival’s numbers in hand O’Leary tried to persuade the press that Wizz Air will not be able to compete with Ryanair. The CEO said, for instance, that while they do not have to make deposits when ordering an aircraft from the manufacturer Wizz Air must. The document also shows that at the end of March last year Wizz Air had EUR 82 m in cash and an additional EUR 22 m earmarked cash stock, and that it also had a EUR 32.7 m liability in form of an inter-company loan. |
NEW WIZZAIR 'S AIRPORT : DEBRECEN (Hungary)
From June 18th 2012 (3 flights per week) London Luton (LTN) to Debrecen (DEB) |
An interesting route.
Whats left for Wizz Air to expand to? Nis, Maribor, Ohrid, Tatry Poprad or Kosice? |
Ryanair seemingly presses ahead with attack on Wizz
Ryanair will lodge a complaint at the European Commission against rival carrier Wizz Air, claiming that it violates European ownership rules, said Michael Cawley on Tuesday. Wizz Air is in breach of the European airline ownership rules [he said]. EU regulation stipulate that the majority owner of carriers operating within the bloc must be European, and Ryanair claims Wizz Air has no such owner. Aviation is not liberalised worldwide. It is regulated by bilateral intergovernmental agreements where flights may be launched from which cities. In the European Union, though there is the 'open skies’ accord, that allows carriers to have flights anywhere from any city provided they are majority-owned by Europeans. Ryanair has obtained new information about the ownership structure of Wizz Air, Cawley said. Wizz Air Holdings is registered in Jersey on the Channel Islands, the two subsidiaries of which are the Hungarian and Ukrainian carriers, Cawley said. The company is owned by a company registered in Malta, which is also owned by a Maltese company that is also owned by a Maltese firm, he added. Overall, you can get to Wizz Air Holdings via four layers of owners, on top of which there is a person called Stuart Blackburn. Ryanair claims he does not represent European owners. Although the Ryanair chief was asked what they base this claim on, he declined to answer. Cawley said "Wizz Air is not an airline Hungary needs, on which the Hungarian (presumably Budapest) airport can lean on. It lacks loyalty and sustainability." He noted that they will lodge a complaint against Wizz Air to the aviation body of the European Commission today. It would suggest that the last investor ties between Wizz and Ryan were broken and the playoff is real. |
on which the Hungarian (presumably Budapest) airport can lean on It lacks loyalty At the very least FR see Wizz as an annoyance, at most a threat to their expansion plans |
It would suggest that the last investor ties between Wizz and Ryan were broken and the playoff is real. |
Maybe EC should consider issuing a ban for Ryanair not to expand anymore. So many companies went bust because of them, so many people lost their jobs. These guys becoming monopolists. Enough is enough.
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Maybe EC should consider issuing a ban for Ryanair not to expand anymore. So many companies went bust because of them, so many people lost their jobs. These guys becoming monopolists. Enough is enough. |
Of course it's airport business, but look around how many bases they have, name me please any other LCC that has such network as RYR does. Ryanair is always doing business unfair. Always trying to weaken other companies by some stupid allegations. I hate them for that. I hope that some day people will open their eyes and other companies will sue O'Leary ( Ryanair) for that.
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Wizz Air
Wonder how many new routes will be announced in the coming weeks and how many new aircraft as they want to increase the number of flights there by 75% |
Much of the increase has already been announced. The 75% uplift is summer 2012 over summer 2011, and various new services have been announced since then...
Budapest from 2nd March 2012, 3 pw Palma from 23rd June 2012, 2 pw Verona from 23rd June 2012, 2 pw Increased frequencies already announced: Bergamo from June +5 pw Treviso from June +4 pw Madrid from June +2 pw Dortmund from June +2 pw Bari from June 2012 +2 pw Cuneo from June +1 pw Catania from June +1 pw Forli from June +1 pw Pisa from June +1 pw |
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wizz to start flights from Arad International Airport to Milan BGY, 2 weekly from June.
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Wizz to start flights from Milan MXP
Budapest from 18 June at 10 weekly. Milan BGY will be dropped. Bucharest from 1 July at 4 weekly. Milan BGY will remain at 10 weekly. Budapest to Vana also restarted from 27 June at 2 weekly. |
Today's so called sale by Wizzair is nothing short of disgraceful and something which should be investigated because it's highly misleading at the most mild term.
According to their site all of their "Exclusive Club" members can get 20% off all fares on all routes on all dates for today only. A great offer you may think if you paid the 40 euro for such club. However from looking at flights yesterday and today, it seems that the Exclusive Club prices are exactly the same as yesterday on every single flight. They have not been reduced. Instead what has happened is they have increased the non club prices by 20% overnight. And they're STILL charging 10 euro government tax from Irish airports despite the fact it was reduced to 3 euro over a year ago. If this was Ryanair there would be an outcry. |
Debrecen
New routes to Debrecen (Hungary):
Eindhoven EIN - Debrecen DEB (starting December 15, 2012) Milan Malpensa MXP - Debrecen DEB (starting December 16, 2012) |
Interesting that Eindhoven is among one of the three airport seeing service from DEB, same goes for BRQ. Seems as if it is a good performer for them!
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Eindhoven
Don't forget RIX (Riga), also served by a W turn with a Katowice-based plane. So EIN has Brno, Riga and from december Debrecen with W turns. I know the Eindhoven-Riga route is doing very well
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Wizz Air filling the void?
Would'nt suprise me if Wizz Air launched a new Prague service to the Midlands soon, both Birmingham/East Midlands without a service to the Czech Republic from September.
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Btw.
Did you notice that Potuguese Daniel de Carvalho has switched from Ryanair to Wizzair recently? Formerly working as Ryanair's European Communications Manager, a couple of months ago he was appointed as the Corporate Communications Manager in the Hungarian low cost carrier.
Although competing, both carriers have much in common, it seems. |
Did you notice that Potuguese Daniel de Carvalho has switched from Ryanair to Wizzair recently? Formerly working as Ryanair's European Communications Manager, a couple of months ago he was appointed as the Corporate Communications Manager in the Hungarian low cost carrier. Not like people to move from one airline to another like Willie Walsh, hundreds of pilots etc etc |
Wizz Air returns to Slovenia
Wizz Air will soon fly to Slovenian main airport, Ljubljana Brnik. The official announcement is scheduled for Monday, two or three new routes expected.
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