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MarkD 4th Jan 2007 18:05

Would it not be difficult for BA to do a deal like that when they report their fleet and committed orders/options to shareholders every quarter?

hotstart54 4th Jan 2007 18:23

Mark,

Isn't it tough to know what is agreed in paneled rooms between the barons of aviation and aircraft manufacturers? No that I would follow the conspiracy theorists too closely mind you....

I think if BA wanted to secure an order or options around a theme, there is enough (anecdotal) evidence out there to make it a reasonably safe bet for us to assume that to be the case.

just an opinion...

Dan Air 87 4th Jan 2007 18:52

Heard a rumour that BA are indeed buying 777-300F's to help them cope with the delayed baggage at LHR. I shouldn't joke really as I am flying to ABZ with them tomorrow for a weekend!

EI-BUD 5th Jan 2007 04:08

BA & London LGW & LCY
 

Originally Posted by akerosid (Post 3049933)
I think this order is only going to be for widebodies and it will be a case of A380s/A350s -v- 748s/773ERs/787s. As you point out, BA is going to drive an extremely hard bargain.

Whether or not there will be any replacements for the RJ100s (which were not included in the Flybe contract), depends on how routes out of LCY do. Even then, the A318 might not be the ideal choice.

Personally, I see BA retreating to be a Heathrow based airline over the next few years, even leaving LGW - with limited service being operated by GB Airways.

Aeroskid , I think you are spot on about LGW, I cant see BA in there for the long haul, excuse the pun! However, although LHR is a lucrative base, one would ask is it a good idea to have all your eggs in one basket? what do you think?

Personally, I can see BA sticking it out at LCY as it has a limiting factor re size and scope for operations( hence can be sheltered from competition, hence high fares).. interestingly did anyone read the article LCY plan for growth?
http://www.uk-airport-news.info/lond...ews-030107.htm

Globaliser 15th Jan 2007 14:11


Originally Posted by TopBunk (Post 3050050)
2. Cabin Crew will vote about 80:20 in support of strike action, when the day comes they will go sick rather than strike as in 1997. BASSA will end up making major compromises and be on the defensive for years.

The first half of this prediction I like very much.

Do you have this week's lottery numbers, by any chance? :)

scruggs 18th Jan 2007 10:06

Aircraft rivals vie for £15bn as BA gets out its wallet
 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...553123,00.html

Sorry if it's been posted elsewhere.

eP.

Pax Vobiscum 19th Jan 2007 13:07

BA to spend £1 billion a year on new aircraft over next 15 years
 
According to The Times (January 18)
"The massive order for up to 135 long-haul aircraft, which BA hopes to announce in about three months, has triggered an aggressive bidding war between Boeing, of the US, and Airbus, its European rival. The Franco-German aircraft manufacturer is understood to be offering substantial discounts on the list prices of its airliners to cover the cost of retraining BA pilots and engineers."

Golf Charlie Charlie 19th Jan 2007 13:25

Does The Times think the cost of 135 aircraft is a mere one billion quid ?

Edit : OK, I see the article itself says 15 billion.

wobble2plank 19th Jan 2007 13:30

Damn..... GCC got there before I could post a witty, intelligent put down :oh:

NWSRG 19th Jan 2007 17:53

135 aircraft?

57 744s, 45 772s, and 21 767s I think...that gives a current WB fleet of 122 aircraft...

...so BA are looking to replace them all and add a little growth?

I suppose in 15 years time, the last 772s and 744s will be getting near retirement time.

My own guess is that we'll see 748s, 773s and 789/10s in the mix, although I can't help thinking that Airbus will break the bank to get this one...maybe A330s, A350s and a few A380s will be the order of the day. The only problem for Airbus is that they can't offer anything competitive in the 747 sector...the 346 is a dead duck and the 380 too big to replace all the 744s...

flyer55 20th Jan 2007 14:48

And the replacement for 737 at LGW which should hopefully be announced in the next 3 months . Re GB Airways we will all have to wait and see what happens their !

Andy_S 30th Jan 2007 16:41

BA Ground Staff Threaten Strike
 
Here we go again:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/...es/6312915.stm

Fargoo 30th Jan 2007 20:43

The ballot over whether to accept the companies pension off hasn't even taken place yet.
I think the title of this thread is very misleading - does the BBC have nothing better to report?

Railgun 30th Jan 2007 21:37


Originally Posted by Fargoo (Post 3098434)
The ballot over whether to accept the companies pension off hasn't even taken place yet.
I think the title of this thread is very misleading - does the BBC have nothing better to report?

Yes it has. I have had mine and returned it.

plodding along 30th Jan 2007 22:10

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about the pensions, exactly what are ground staff unhappy about?
It is all fair and the reason aircrew have a higher pensionable salary is all to do with the fact that retirment has gone from 55 to 65, a 10 year increase as opposed to just 5 for ground staff. Please can someone clarify what the issue is here.

C152_driver 30th Jan 2007 22:44


Originally Posted by Andy_S (Post 3098037)

Yep, spotted that. Fortunately, just before booking Dubai flights in a couple of weeks. That's EK getting my money then.

M.Mouse 30th Jan 2007 22:50

The ground staff will not be led into strike action by the GMB. It is posturing and they have reasons for their posturing.

The vote is on acceptance or otherwise of the pension proposals not whether or not to strike.

Curious Pax 31st Jan 2007 07:41

Are BA LGW turning into a Ryanair wannabe? I notice that their LGW-AMS flights have started using the locost H gates at Schiphol, rather than the regular D gates (the LHR flights remain on 'D').

AirLCY 31st Jan 2007 08:13

Flights dont look like they're set up properly yet, you cant buy below M class fare on any date, the normal lead in fare is N class for all BA Domestic routes which is 3 below M.

norodnik 31st Jan 2007 08:28

I am going to start a new thread:

BA Staff in "Go to work" threat

sure to be a nasty one this!!!!


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