They don't actually have to have any fence at all, believe it or not. Access into a Restricted Zone of an airfield must be controlled and everything and everyone screened who passes into it, but often the runways and taxiways are in what's known as the Controlled Area (DfT speak) and it is down to the airport to decide what measures they take to permit people to access these... so, just like if you owned a field, it's up to you what measures you want to take to keep people out.

That's a very basic overview, there's a lot more to airport security than that, but it's basically true. Fences are not mandatory! Seems amazing, doesn't it? :\

:( I’m sure LTNman releases that an Airport is for its passengers not spectators. As a past regular user of the old terminal facilities, as a viewer and local private pilot, I along with a few others also regret the necessary modifications, which HAD to be made. There is no way the terminal in its old layout would have been able to handle the increase in passenger though put. The old system with all the major catering facilities landside encouraged passengers to stay there until their flights were called which with even the then relatively small number of flights resulted in cues at the security check in desks. Rest assure LTNman that all the facilities of the old terminal are still there and more, but are all Airside for the use of flying customers not the spotters and OAP Sunday dinners.
The present set up encourages users to move from check in though security ASAP to airside thus avoiding long delays. Unfortunately it is just one of the small sacrifices that we have to make as the passenger numbers increase until a new terminal is built which hopefully will include good Landside viewing areas to see friends and family off and arrive

Before anyone picks me up on it, no that wasn’t snooker players having their tools of their trade confiscated at the security desks just QUEUES of people:ooh:

Bournemouth might have the longer runway but Southampton is in a different league for terminal facilities and passenger access. As a passenger I wouldn’t like to arrive before check-in opened if there were another 30 passengers also waiting for check-in to open. Anyway why has the upstairs seating area been closed off?

Anyone arriving at Bournemouth to pick someone up is faced with a waiting area that has to be worse than many third world airports of a similar size to Bournemouth. There is no excuse for providing grubby ex-canteen stackable chairs as a seating area and really can’t they do something with the area to take away that portocabin look.

'Anyway why has the upstairs seating area been closed off?'

Because if these had been left in then it would have reduced the available space for passengers checking in. Also now that passengers can check in at any desk queus are much reduced.

Re the Arrivals waiting area. Its much better than it used to be. It used to feel like you were in a garden shed with a little scratched plastic window to look through.

Does anyone have an update on the EZY and WOW rumours?
Are they likely to happen?

Mail Flight
 

Can any one confirm the Aurigny mail contract to and from Jersey as of next Monday will be operated by an ATR72 due to the GPO needing a larger capicity on the route??

If this is correct the capicity will double on this contract.

The last week or so the normal Shorts flight was backed uo by a Trislander so giving a capicity of about 5 ton between the aircraft.

Mail & Freight
 

I'm not sure about the specifics but Bournemouth has experienced huge growth in the cargo operations and tonnage this past year. January 2006 saw double the Jan 05 levels, and so the increase with Aurigny to an ATR-72 doesn't surprise me. The route used to be operated by Chan Ex using F27's, so the SH-360 doesn't meet the demand. ATR-72 is much more appropriate.

Thomsonfly have launched flights to Prague for this winter. They operate every wednesday, friday, sunday & monday.:ok:

who are you? because if you work at the airport don't you think there should be some kind of advertising for the service!? It's listed for booking on TFly website, but as usual nothing promoting it on Bournemouth airport or Thomsonfly website...

The route hasn't been officially released yet. There's been a space made for the press release on the BOH website and I'm sure that TOM will post something on their site.
As to who I am.......????:cool:

Prague has been on the T/FLY website for a couple of hours now !

01/11/06 - 23/03/07

MON - DEP BOH 1310 - ARR PRAGUE 1605 - DEP PRAGUE 1645 - ARR BOH 1750

WED/FRI/SUN DEP BOH 1130 - ARR PRAGUE 1425 - DEP PRAGUE 1505 - ARR BOH 1610

seems like the marketing dept want to copy the TFly press release and thats what we're waiting for - no imagination for themselves. more power to FR at BOH. we know u aint bothered to advertise our flights to PISA -- but Tfly wont be able to compete with us

At BOH? Really?
Thomsonfly - more routes, more pax, more expansion in the last 5 years?

not on like for like routes

we kicked them off DUB at DSA

we will kick them off PSA at BOH

I'm sure that's true - FR clearly have deeper pockets than Thomson.
What's sad is that FR's attitude, certainly where BOH is concerned, seems to focus more on frustrating other operators than actually developing routes.
On that note, many at BOH still remember Buzz, and many of them have no desire to fly Ryanair.

coasthugger, people surely aren't bitter for that long in England are they!?

besides - the buzz network was a mess - not just from BOH. we needed to close it down.

regional airports get greedy when 'fake & unsustainable' low cost carriers come in and pay more than us. then they (the airports) try to stop our expansion! we simply don't believe in paying airports when they are making money from public transport, car-parks and shops.

ask yourself who will be around in 25 years time... it wont be Jet2, it wont be bmibaby - but it will be Ryanair. then ask yourself which partner you want to do business with - if customers are important to you, you will opt for us.

and for airports like BOH, the future really is only Ryanair

Does anyone have an update on the Air Southwest rumoured routes to Manchester, Jersey, Leeds/Bradford, Newcastle and Paris CDG?

Are they likly to work seeing as these routes are operated from SOU?




You are clearly very baised towards other LCC. I have to disagree with your comments.

Easyjet will also be around as long as ryanair, Jet2 are succeeding and so are many other LCC.

I personnally feel that Ryanair's policly of flying to airports away from the destination is stupid really as they would make more money flying to main airports!

For Example:

If i were to fly STN to Glasgow Prestwick if I did not know that PIK was around 30 miles away from Glasgow it's self I would have travelled to GLA as it is closer.

Even my mother knows that PIK is exteremly far from Glasgow and when going to see family if flights to GLA are full then she would not even consider PIK she would book EDI flights!

But I guess we all have are opinions :ok

So when airports get offered more by other operators, they're 'greedy' - but when Ryanair offer less than other operators, that's good business sense?

And as regards your earlier comments on BOH marketing department - surely you're in FR marketing?! (You sure as hell aren't in FR complaints department - 'cos no-one is!:) )

Ryanair 1 - 'seems like the marketing dept want to copy the TFly press release and thats what we're waiting for - no imagination for themselves. more power to FR at BOH. we know u aint bothered to advertise our flights to PISA'
Bournemouth Airport DOES advertise the Ryanair route to Pisa via their sponsoring of the Wave 105FM weather reports. Wave is the most listened to radio station in this part of the country and broadcasts to the well populated East Dorset, Hampshire and the Isle of Wight areas.
I doubt that TOM will be pushed off the Pisa route as they are only flying twice a week, plus Thomsons use the flights for charter passengers as well. The timings on the FR flights are whats going to hold back your services.
If FR want to make BOH a base, then you would see more advertising of FR services from BOH. You have to support your main player.:ok:

Are you for real mate? Have you ever spoken to an Irishman about the potato famine?

Let's hope not.... silly boy!

Channel Island Operations
 

Nakata77

In reply to your increase some of it is due to change by the post office and the paper distrubutors.

The mail to the Channel Islands up until two years or so came from Gatwick as well as the papers.

This now comes from Bournemouth.

The reason for Aurigny putting an ATR72 on the mail run is due to a request by the GPO for an increase in capicity.

To clear up some points

Channel Express operated from Bournemouth to Jersey and Guernsey with the FK27 on the paper contract which Emerald now operate. The Channel Express FK27 returned to Bournemouth to operate the freight to Jersey which Air Contractors now operate.

So the only increase of freight to the Jersey at the moment is by Aurigny moving down from Gatwick and now putting on a bigger aircraft from the Shorts.:ok:

Can't see all that many people wanting to arrive at Pisa airport at 23.25 at night!

TFly's 11.55 much more civilised!

All of Ryanair's BOH services are today advertised in the Bournemouth Daily Echo.

someone mentioned flight times

the point is not what we can do to the passenger volumes on competing services, but on what we can (and will) do to the passenger yield on those routes that compete with us - forcing the overpriced carrier to bow down

Do you not want to give any other airline a chance other than Ryanair? I believe that passengers should be given a choice of airlines to fly with, which also have better service and aircraft cabins than Ryanair does. Bournemouth airport doesn't want to be a one-airline airport, and I sure hope we never are!

if we get our way all airports would be one-airline dependant - on us.

seriously though i doubt that would ever happen at BOH. there are lots of opportunities and enough business for a few carriers there (on services we would never consider)

Ryanair predicts BOH could be handling 3 or 4 million in a few years time - majority of which will be flying with us

Hope it happens
 

If all these LCC routes come off for Bournemouth it would be like turning the clock back 40 years or so for the numbers expected to depart and arrive.

Great for the Airport and all its worker lets hope it all work out.:ok: :ok:

Today we spent most of the day without telephones (except mobiles) or internet facilities after some smart ar$e chopped through our ISDN line. It was like a return to the dark ages - very frustrating !

Heated calls to BOH authorities, but as yet no sign of a resolution !

Is this part of BOH Airport's plan to get Jet2 out berfore the end of the year ?

ILS Repeater

I'd blame the boys at MADL rather than the Airport, the Airport makes you go up and down digging holes is nothing to do with them (could be BT I suppose they are worse than useless as well!

:ok:

I hear there was a 737 emerency landing today due to gear problems

...anyone have any more information?!!?

All I heared is that a Palmair 737-200 had to turn back to Bournemouth shortly after departure. Departed on it's flight later the same day.

Jimmi
BOHEuropean

Funny, I had the impression from Mr Meeson's recent comments that Jet2 were a Leeds-based airline and couldn't wait to get out of BOH. You can hardly expect preferential treatment from the airport in the circumstances...

10 YEARS OF RYANAIR AT BOURNEMOUTH

Ten years ago today (9th May) the champagne corks were popping as Ryanair launched its first route from Bournemouth Airport.

But a glance at the press release that was issued to mark the event shows just how much the airline industry has changed. The launch press release stated: “The airline will extend its low fares to the new route, and has pledged to make over 70% of all seats available at fares of £59 and £69 return.”

An advertisement in yesterday’s Daily Echo has the same flights priced at just £12.99 – less than 25% of the original price!

Following the successful launch of its daily service to Dublin in May 1996, Ryanair added a daily service to Frankfurt-Hahn in February 2002. In February 2003 the company introduced a daily service to Glasgow-Prestwick and later that year (October 2003) replaced the Frankfurt-Hahn route with a daily flight to Girona. Their fourth destination from Bournemouth starts early next month when they will be flying to Pisa three times a week.

Since its launch in May 1996, more than 1.5 million passengers have travelled on Ryanair’s Bournemouth routes.

Turning back to the launch press release it’s also clear just how much the airline has grown. In May 1996 Ryanair was operating a fleet of 11 Boeing 737 aircraft (130 seats) on a network of 13 scheduled routes between the UK and Ireland, together with a route between Glasgow and Stansted.

Today Ryanair operates 334 low fare routes across 23 countries. The airline has 15 European bases and operates an entire fleet of 107 new Boeing 737-800 aircraft (189 seats) with firm orders for a further 127 new aircraft, which will be delivered over the next 6 years. Ryanair currently employs a team of 2,700 people and will carry in excess of 40 million scheduled passengers this year.

Commenting on Ryanair’s 10th anniversary at Bournemouth Airport, Managing Director Peter Duffy said:

"We are delighted to have built up such a good working relationship with Ryanair over the past ten years, and everyone working at the airport is to be congratulated for making their operation at Bournemouth such a success. Low cost carriers, such as Ryanair, have dramatically changed the face of the aviation industry all of which is great news for those living in our region who now have easy access to a comprehensive selection of flights from their local airport."

WOWBOY,

But what is the BOH catchment area? It doesnt really fit in with the FR model. Underused, yes, but not a secondary airport for a major city. And it is the only airport in the world I think with geraniums in the security area!

By the way, I can drive from PIK to centre of Glasgow in 30 mins staying within speed limit. EDI much longer.;)

XSB

EAL 747's
 

Flew through Bournemouth's overhead today and noticed that the 747's have had their wings clipped, well, more of a chop and remove really.

It's been posted on another forum that this months Airliner World reports that the Easyjet rumours are true and that if a deal is struck 2 A319's will be based at BOH from April 07. :ok:

Easyjet
 

The artical in Airlinerworld clearly states that easyjet is only Studying Bournemouth as a Possible base and is among up to 30 other airports which they are currently in discussion with.
In the artical, possible routes that may be launched are; Edinburgh, Geneva, Nice & Paris.
Jimmi

If an airline is at least showing an interest this must be a good thing if Easy Jet might base two buses lets hope it comes off.

On another subject in vue of the on going problems with Emerald and the possibilty of them not being able to get started who has been able to pick up all there work out of EGHH.

air contractors, ATR-72, Titan Airways B733, Aurigny ATR-72 operate cargo services, and some extra ad-hoc airlines are called in when problems arise with the existing carriers such as Emerald