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GrahamK 10th Nov 2005 09:18

flyGlobespan launching a daily EDI-BOH flight from March 2006

MerchantVenturer 10th Nov 2005 11:10


Continental may be wanting to throw Bournemouth into the Bristol leg in order to boost pax numbers. Can anyone vouch for the latter. BRS-JFK has gone down to 5 weekly for the winter.
I wonder where these rumours come from. A few weeks ago someone suggested that CO were to switch their BRS-EWR (not JFK) service to CWL-EWR, and back in the summer there was a concerted campaign against the route on another well-known aviation forum.

In August the load factor on BRS-EWR was 83% and in September it was 80% (CAA Stats). In fact, in both those months more pax were carried than on the CO BFS-EWR, a route that started around the same time as BRS-EWR last May.

I posted on the Bristol thread earlier this week that I had spoken to the BRS managing director at an airport roadshow and asked him how the EWR route was performing. He was candid in that he said initially they failed to attract the US market but that he thought the fares had been too high at the beginning. They have been revised with the resulting higher take-up of seats and he feels that on occasions the fares may now be even too low.

The route was always intended to go to five a week in winter. BFS has gone to five as well, and the EDI route that started in summer 2004 and had exceptionally high loads form the outset still went down to five a week in its first winter.

CO were looking to carry 75,000 pax in their first year on the BRS-EWR and thus far are well on course to achieve that, if not better it.

I know that yields are more important than loads but the Bristol MD seemed very confident about the route and very pleased with its performance and, perhaps more importantly, he said Continental are too.

Sorry to have strayed a bit into BRS territory but a question was asked and all I can do is supply the 'evidence' so that people can make up their own minds as to the likelihood of the BRS-EWR being extended to include BOH.

MARKEYD 10th Nov 2005 13:08

Good news about the new Edinburgh route !! lets hope its well marketed and sells better than the Belfast route did , although it has to be said a smaller aircraft on that route may well have helped it stay as loads were not to bad towards the end

Busy on the ramp this morning with 2 Thomsonfly 767 300 off to Montego Bay with cruise passengers , extra demand for this holiday promted an extra flight . 8 flights this winter to the Caribbean alone , not bad at all for a small regional airport

shamrock7seal 12th Nov 2005 11:02

BFS was pretty good compared to EUJet loads at Manston. BFS should really be able to support a daily Dash 8-300 operation. Perfect operator would be air southwest.

great news about flyglobespan - hopefully the route will support a two daily operation if they use B737-600's but cant see more than daily if they use the -800.

JFK would make sense but only if it originated in bristol and flew straioght from BOH - there are no payload penalties in bad / hot weather from BOH

phil_2405 30th Nov 2005 22:17

easyJet summer 06 flights are now on sale for Geneva. Flights to BOH are only available until 23/04/06 so I guess they aren't going to operate it yr round?

Nakata77 1st Dec 2005 11:16

i dont think this is any indication of poor performance though because the new Geneva routes to Doncaster Sheffield and Edinburgh are also stopping (as advertised) on 23rd/24th April 06. Besides, Geneva tends to be quite week in the summer from all UK airports. I would'nt worry. I'm sure they will be considering further route development from Bournemouth, and will certainly be back for winter 06/07 to Geneva from there from feedback i've heard

BOHEuropean 1st Dec 2005 18:10

You can book the Geneva flights through until sunday 23rd of
April - appernetly extended.

--

Also, it's the end of European 747-200 operations as all have
parked up.

BOHEurpean

Nakata77 2nd Dec 2005 08:29

BOHEuropean, do you know whats happened to the Bournemouth movements log on airliners.net? I can't seem to find it, and it was great with all the pics and news of movements.... I think you were one of the most regular contributors...

BOHEuropean 3rd Dec 2005 09:00

Hi,

It was decided that we would not continue it due to the fact that not enough Bournemouth members were on the site.

ezyBoh 5th Dec 2005 02:26

A lot of GVA flights are seasonal obviously to take advantage of the skiing season. Bookings on the BOH-GVA-BOH are very good. Plans are being considered to perhaps base aircraft at BOH for the Summer season to the 'normal' Summer destinations.

Hopefully BOH will become a year round easyJet destination.

Nakata77 5th Dec 2005 10:29

But the question is, which summer are you refering to? It would be great for BOH if it was summer 06, but what about the slots and the crucial launch period? if they dont launch now bookings wont be as strong as they could be as people will book with flybe/elsewhere.

are easyjet bothered about competition from TOM/FR?

FLYboh 8th Dec 2005 16:09

Thomsonfly have added 3 morning flights to their Amsterdam route which makes it possible to have a good 10 hours in the city on a monday, tuesday (from 27/03) and friday (from 05/05).

Looking forward to the rest of their summer schedule which hopefully be loaded pretty soon.:ok:

phil_2405 8th Dec 2005 22:34

Good news for TOM :ok: Paris isn't available yet is it although it is from COV/DSA? :confused: As you say, hopefully the full schedule will be released soon. Is it definite that BOH will have 3 based aircraft?

easyJet start operating the GVA route next week as well :ok:

FLYboh 9th Dec 2005 14:17

If you look at the timetables in April it will take 3 aircraft to operate the flights.

I don't know why they're taking so long to release their schedule though. Maybe its slots or something holding them up.

eurostar builder 10th Dec 2005 06:31

Great News for Amsterdam.

Air Berlin start in 7 days.

Just been looking around the airport but supprised not to see any signs / leaflets or advertising for Easyjey or Air Berlin.

There are empty Billboard holders in the Arrivals hall and Jet2 banners / signs still on show.

Looking forward to seeing Easy jet Swiss start soon after.

Best of Luck but please advertise these flights then you may get some passengers.

Nakata77 12th Dec 2005 08:41

thats the marketing department for you! haven't a clue!

eurostar builder 12th Dec 2005 17:35

Nakata this seems very true.

The airport does not even have their Airport Newspapers in the Arrivals hall where meeters and greeters wait.

There are at least 5 advert boards in there all BLANK.

Brochures for Bournemouth on the wall that no body sees as arriving passengers are walking away from them.

Comment Card box on wall - Good idea but there has been No Cards to write on for AT LEAST 2 MONTHS and see some people wrote on Servettes and scrap paper to complain.

Coke machine not been working since it was installed.

But....

Did hear Easy jet on the local radio today, not sure what they where advertising as I missed it.

Its a real shame to mention this but I hope that somebody does read this and do some action.

QWERTY9 12th Dec 2005 17:35

If either of the Easyjet or Air Berlin flights are successful it certainley won't be down to BOH airport or the Airline marketing departments. I occasionally visit the airport, but would not have known anything about these flights if it had not been for overhearing a conversation in the WC !!!

I can't personally recall seeing/hearing anything official to suggest that Easy or Air Berlin will be flying from the airport. In fact just three hundred yards away from where I work is a bus stop billboard advertising Easyjet flights from BRISTOL !!!

Local media include up to 5 local radio stations including the BBC, a daily newspaper and numerous weekly publications covering the local area. I may be wrong, but i don't think I've ever seen/heard anything in any of these apart from Ryan Air advertisements.

I do hope for the local economy that all these flights will be a success.

phil_2405 12th Dec 2005 17:45

Does the airport actually manage the advertising boards at the airport? I know at other airports, 3rd parties are responsible.

Also, I'm guessing its not particularly cost effective to advertise loads when you only have one daily route into an airport.

I agree with the points made by others but just wanted to try balance the argument up!

Nakata77 13th Dec 2005 13:30

i would like to second that... unless they realise that they need to do some hard graft to get bums on seats it will be a dissappointing 2006


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