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With the launch of the 3 new French routes, I assume Flybe and the new owners have come to an agreement on airport charges, good news. Glad to see Rennes has been added, Exeter's twin city.
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Have the new consortium actually bought the airport yet?
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No it's been held up, new expected completion date is late Jan as far as I'm aware.
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Taken from BBC news:
Airport sell-off nets county £60m Devon County Council has sold Exeter International Airport for £60m. It was bought by Regional and City Airports Limited (RCA) in a deal described by the authority as good news for the airport and the local economy. Council leader Brian Greenslade said the council had doubled its money after a previous attempt to sell failed. Exeter Airport, base to airline Flybe, was put back on the market in spring after the owners of Bristol airport pulled out due to competition concerns. We shall take time and care on deciding how the money can be put to best use for Devon Council leader Brian Greenslade Mr Greenslade said: "We have effectively doubled our money in just 12 months compared to the net figure the county council would have received had the first sale process last year been concluded. "It is a vindication of our decision to put the airport back on the market again and the value of exercising cool, measured judgement." He said no decisions had been taken on how the cash would be spent. "We shall take time and care on deciding how the money can be put to best use for Devon," he said. RCA, part of engineering giant Balfour Beatty, said it wanted Exeter to become "the natural airport of choice for the region". 'Totally committed' It is the first time Balfour Beatty has been involved with running an airport and it is bringing management experts from London City Airport to assist. A spokeswoman said: "It is a departure for us, but we bring the experience of running other high-profile projects like hospitals and schools through the Private Finance Initiative. "We are totally committed to the airport." The airport has been in the hands of the county council since it was sold by the Ministry of Defence after World War II. It has only started becoming profitable in the last five years. Nearly one million passengers used the airport last year, up from 618,201 in 2004. |
There are reports all in the local papers today about the sale and hints and major expansion and flights into London, most likey City Airport with who has now bought it don't you think??
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Originally Posted by devon_guy
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...most likey City Airport with who has now bought it don't you think??
Flights to LCY would be great for onward connecting traffic but I'm not sure how well the route would compete with the train for general traffic to London given that many of the trains are timetabled to take two hours now. m. |
Which airline would fly the EXT - LCY route though? I doubt Flybe would.
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I don't think it's really an ASW style route. Maybe VLM or T3? A J41 would probably be just about the right size of aircraft for the route but it would mean Eastern opening up a new base at EXT, not that it's unheard of for them to do so for the sake of just one route. They don't have a crew base at either Bristol or Cardiff.
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Exeter London Route
If this route goes ahead I think VLM is by far the most likely airline going to be doing it. Scot Airways is a possibility but I couldnt see it. Athought Flybe are suitable in that they have an Exeter base, I cant see it.
Apart from that not many more alternatives, unless a new player is going to arrive at EXT. I understand that BE is renegotiating all fees with airports in advance of the Bacon integration, as such I could see a new owner at Exeter keen to have a second airline with a base at Exeter? |
The ideal ones for that sort of route would be VLM or Scot Airways.
Flybe stopped operating the Jersey-London City and the Isle Man services when the last of the smaller Dashes left the home meaning the 300s and 200 Dashes they operated in the earlier days, which seem a long time ago now. If a service does start it would have to be morning and late afternoon or early evening to try and work. Some of the problems would be getting the slots at London City as the service would require some prime time ones Monday to Friday. |
I would think it's almost a dead cert the new owners will try and encourage a new airline to base itself at EXT. Any business with any sense won't want all their eggs in one basket i.e Flybe.
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FCA will be visiting 4 times a week on W patterns in summer, 1 x 320 PFO, 1 x 757 MAH, 1 x 321 PMI, 1 x 321 FAO, Also LPA showing O/B with Futura and I/B with FCA, Could EXT be getting closer to a year round base?
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Anyone know what the problems were with BE at the airport today?
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Could be anything...
Out of interest, how do you know which airlines and aircraft will be operating in the summer? I used to look on a website but that hasn't been updated in like 2 years!!! According to FCA, the B757 will be based at BRS this summer replacing the normal A321 so maybe they are considering placing this on more EXT routes. As much as that would be great, I want to see different airlines coming in in addition to the current ones.....More scheduled airlines would be cool at least they would be frequent arrivals/departures. Maybe GSM would consider EXT as they are adding Toronto/Hamilton this year. Any idea on a/c? B757 or B767?? Cheers |
Any ideas on what other operators are coming in S07? I used to look at the 'Xair' website but quite frankly that is useless - last updated 2005!!
I know the usual visitors last year was LTE/Volar A320, Air Europa B738's, Futura B738's, Air Malta/XL A320, FCA B752/A320, Sun Express B738's, Onur Air A321, Air Transat A310, EuroCypria B738 Austrian Arrows F100, Sunadria F100, SATA A320, Viking Airlines MD83, BritishJet MD90 and of course the Flybe's........but would be nice to see some others. Although, I don't think the Viking is operating this year. The BritishJet is still operating on Wednesdays (2nd year running) so demand for Malta must be high. I used to like the MYT A320 coming in in the new colours...shame that stopped. It would be fab so get some more based aircraft however the problem is Flybe already use 4 stands and there isn't many as it is........Exeter Airport need to pull their finger out and start expanding the apron and terminal facilities before we shall see a large increase in operators. There was a rumour a while ago that Ryanair were considering Exeter to London Stansted to replace the Newquay flights (after the Newquay departure tax argument) but havn't heard anything since. The only new aircraft will be Blue Line F100 which will be operating some of the Flybe routes whilst Flybe wait for more Embraer 195's to be delivered. When you think about it I suppose, Exeter does pretty bloody well over the summer: Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Newcastle, Norwich, Leeds/Bford, Guernsey, Jersey, Manchester, Alicante, Faro, Palma, Nice, Avignon, Rennes, Bergerac, Brest, Paris CDG, Amsterdam, Malaga, Belfast, Dublin, Corfu, Crete, Tenerife, Minorca, Dalaman, Bodrum, Antalya, Paphos, Larnaca, Madeira, Las Palmas, Arrecife(Lanzarote), Toronto Pearson, Toronto Hamilton, Austria, Verona, Bulgaria, Malta, Ibiza, Monastir, Scilly Isles. :D (Proud I remembered most of them) |
The Oracle hey? quite like that one, might change my username!
FCA EXT Equipment this summer is as follows; MON: EXT-MAH (W-Pattern from MAN) B757 TUE: EXT-PMI (W-Pattern from EMA) A321 WED: EXT-PFO (W-Pattern from EMA) A321 THUR: EXT-FAO (W-Pattern from LGW) A320 ENJOY! |
Glad to see that the PFO a/c has changed this year. It has always been a A320 for as long as I can remember.
I am flying to Faro from BRS this summer so pleased about that - can't stand the A320's I am afraid. Out of interest, has FCA ever shown any strong interest in basing an aircraft over the summer. I know the A320 is based during the winter season (maybe that will change next year) and also, do you think FCA would ever consider reinstating the Rhodes flights (They did this a few years ago when AMM) and also some other Greek destinations? |
There have been numerous rumours over the last few years about a full time EXT base for FCA, the latest that i'm aware of is that a 321 to be based from next summer 08, but as I said this is just rumour.
The problem for EXT as has been said before is that they've made it very hard for any other operator to recieve a good service down there, they tend to give a lot of priority to BE, also things like de-icing is done by BE so any other operator will be put to back of que, there is also very limited ramp and terminal space. FCA certainly have a healthy intrest in EXT and the airport management does its best to maintain that relationship well. What may go against an EXT base is the fact that BRS just up the road is a very strong base for them, 3rd busiest after LGW/MAN. But then again it's no difference to BHX/EMA so who knows. :confused: |
Completely understand what you say...all the more reason to get the EXT expansion programme up and running.
To be honest, as I have said already, I don't think there is feasability to any more expansion (operator wise) as the facilities are so limited. Try getting the number of passengers for an A321, two - three Dash8-Q400s and a Embraer 195 plus any additional aircraft ranging from A320 up to A310, then you have a problem on your hands especially if you are at the check-in desks!! Last year, some of our passengers were waiting outside being given bottled water due to the lack of operational check-in desks. |
Hi guys, this is my first post so please bear mith me. just acouple of points, with regard to the de-icing done by flybe at exeter, any a/c that need de-icing will always be done according to departure time,so if FCA are 3rd to depart then they will be done 3rd and not at the end and secondly there are 4x q400's that nightstop ext and not 3. Hope this clarifies a few points. Cheers.
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Hi embraernotworthy,
I realised soon after posting that there were 4 Dash8-Q400s, operating our flights to EDI, GCI/JER, CDG and MAN first thing in the morning. Last time I noted it was 3 dash's, 1 B737 and a Bae 146-300 but that has all changed now :) The de-icing will be completed based on departure time, your correct. However, for example currently on Tuesdays there are 3 flights departing at 0700. I think what WATABENCH is trying to say is that BE would be given priority (or at least we expect they would) as they are loyal to the airport and are the largest operator. its nice to hear from you though - I havn't been here long and to be honest, this is the only forum (Airlines, Airports and Routes) which I will be posting on.......(much nicer people on this thread too!) Any info you have (in addition to what has already been said) with regards to Summer 2007 will be very much appreciated! |
Malpensa Flights
Anyone got any idea what the two Malpensa departures are for and what the a/c are?
14MAR07 1900 BV835 MALPENSA 14MAR07 1945 LM5508 MALPENSA According to the airline code website, the first one is Blue Panorama and the second is Livingstone/Lauda Italy Thanks |
Livingston A321 I-LIVB & Blue Panorama B752 EI-DKL. Operating on behalf of the MOD.
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Thanks for that - do you know if and when they will be returning back to EXT?
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No idea I'm afraid. I didn't know these two were coming until they turned up!
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I see BE are planning to use the E95 on their Norwich route, this seems bizarre:bored:
Regards Mike |
This happens at the moment twice a week to fit the rotations. It is not a capacity issue.
Flybeeeee - No expectation of the 2 a/c returning. Shame it made a nice change on the apron:ok: |
The e195 will normally operate something like ext-agp agp-nwi nwi-ext & return same with other spain destinations.
Seems logical to generate at least a bit of revenue by crew operating back to base instead of taxying |
1 Million Passengers pass through Devon's premier airport
http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/displa...=sidebarsearch
Good to see. Look forward to Rennes and Nice flights starting in May. |
any news about a new operator coming down to exeter now that the airport has new owners?
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Can someone confirm to me , that Summer Wednesday's now involve 2x Toronto flights? The regular Air Transat A310 service to Pearson (YYZ) via BHX along with what I can only assume is a B763 direct with FlyGlobespan to Hamilton (YHM)? Both landing within 2 hours of each other?
Love Exeter to bits - used to be a ramp guy there, but man alive, that'll be a day to avoid flying from this already heavily cramped airport. Would make the airfield ops day a bit tricky too allocating parking stands if they both turned up together, let alone having enough equipment and manpower to deal with it all. :ooh: Where will they park all the Flybe's.......? |
Timings of the two Wednesday Toronto services are scheduled to be...
In Out From To Flyglobespan B752 08:25 - 09:05 Hamilton/Stansted Air Transat A310 10:10 - 12:00 Pearson/Pearson Flyglobespan B752 12:40 - 13:20 Stansted/Hamilton There is an Onur Air A321 scheduled for 09:00 - 10:00 as well! |
So what your saying EGTE is that the FlyGlobespan is infact a YHM-EXT-STN-EXT-YHM service?
As its only a B752, that makes it a little easier to accomodate them all! Scheduled Onur Air A321? Antalaya, Bodrum, or Dalaman? |
Indeed it is.
The Onur Air is a Bodrum service. |
Quite a few more FCA flights for summer 08 new services to IBZ and PMI
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Is looking like some form of a based aircraft with early out of EXT on several days of the week.
Regards Mike |
Would be nice but FCA wouldnt base an aircraft in the summer and only use it for 1 rotation a day, I suspect it could be a shared a/c of some sort with another base doing W patterns, will have to check out the return flight times, that'll give indication.
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No based a/c for summer 08 from FCA. First Choice have put the flight times on their website the wrong way round, so still only W patterns, as with this year.
Regards MIke |
Finally!
FCA today announced that EXT is their new year round base, 1 320 to be based from november with the loss of FCA bases in LTN and CWL
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oops, my bad:\
sorry people Regards Mike |
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