BAE146-300 VH-EWR
 

This aircraft has now arrived at Exeter does any one know the reason for comming to EXETER??

We have heard a rumour that it may be for Fly Be can anyone confirm this.

If this is correct why wpild they be getting another BAE146 when they are due to recieve more Dash8s shortly and in the near future the Embraer.

I too have heard it is heading to Flybe!

mmeteesside

possibly to provide backup for the Dash 8's? They do seem to be having some "issues" with them at the moment. I'm still trying to find out what went wrong with the DUB flight last weekend, and it's gone very quiet on that subject.

This thread relates to EWR:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=199095

There just isn't enough back up at the moment when something goes wrong so if this a/c is bound for flybe then it will be a stby a/c i expect.

BAE 146 VH-EWR
 

With reference this Bae 146 we believe there is a second aircraft around in the form of VH-EWN would this be another back up for Fly-Be?????

With the problems with the Dash fleet they need some back up

With the announcement of new routes for next year they will be stretching them selves??

Am i correct in saying the aircraft based at Exeter are 2 Dash, 1 Bae 146 and a B737??.

Another Dash 400 Problem
 

This mornings early EXT-CDG flight departed near enough on time but 10 to 15 minutes into the flight the aircraft returned to EXT.

Was this another Dash 8 type tech problem???

The flight was due to go again approx one hour thirty minutes later but i do not know if the flight operated this morning before i left work.

can anyone explain the rationale behind the new EXT to BERGERAC route with flybe?!??! Surely other routes would be much better served - presuming slots could be found - eg AMS, NCE, BCN, RME etc etc - if they are using the 737 then range isn't an argument, but i'm sure even the Q400 could work on NCE or AMS??
AMS = major hub = connections = extra pax
Bergerac = ??? = few pax

146'S
 

A latest rumour was that European (EAAC) had pruchased two also from Australia, are these not the acft for them ? (Flybe carrying out the maint?)

fly20,

The likes of NCE, BCN and AMS are destinations already served ex BRS. Flybe have demonstrated that they are committed to the regions in the UK and the same is apparent in France. Not everyone wants the big city destinations.

Flybe is catering primarily for repeat business and for UK travellers heading to France this means taking them to the regions where they have their second homes, places like Limoges, Bergerac, Brest etc. The added benefit is that for those that have already made the move out to France you pick up the VFR (visiting friends/relations) traffic heading out to see them.

This type of destination creates the repeat business that all airlines need and not the type of travellers that will necessarily just nip off for a weekend break. It is also well within the reach of the Q400 which is ideal for this sort of route.

Flybe have said countless times that they are not out to compete directly with FR or EZY. With this being the case, why fly to the same places making it look like you are?

Just for the record....Flybe are not getting anymore 146's! Not sure where that came from. They are getting rid of them prior to the new EMB's coming in. Why get more!

MV,

Thanks for your response. I'm not sure that Flybe want to reduce services at BRS, rather that it may be difficult to expand services further without setting up an actual crew and aircraft base at the airport, something that may be impractical given the closeness of EXT.

The BOD/EGC routes are facilitated via the BHD route, the aircraft being based at BHD and flying down from BHD and then out to EGC/BOD. I think that last year the EGC route was operated as a W pattern ex SOU, much like the TLS service is ex BHX.

It may be that the cost of setting up a crew base at BRS may put pressure on the viability of services. Maybe Flybe are trialling services from EXT to see if the demand is there. SOU,BHX and BRS have all proved popular with EXT and LBA joining Flybe routes to EGC for Summer 2006.

I very much doubt that a full pull out from BRS is likely. The TLS route does very well with high yield traffic from BAe heading down to Airbus at TLS. I sincerely hope that Flybe do not pull out from BRS but I think it likely that any major expansion will feature at EXT in the short term.

Re: EXETER
 

Looks like the airport is going back on the market this week. Heard today it is likely to go for even more than the SWAC were going to pay.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4613160.stm

Re: EXETER
 

Who do you think will likly buy the airport?

Re: EXETER
 

Would Manchester Airport Group be interested?

Re: EXETER
 

That implies that it would be worth more to a different buyer than to SWAC - don't really understand why that would be. SWAC would have been removing a competitor to BRS and tying up a regional monopoly in the South West. Another buyer will have to compete with BRS?

In all honesty the money that airports go for when you consider the level of capital expenditure required to maintain and expand them seems crazy to me... but then I haven't got £20m to invest anyway...:)

There was certainly plenty of interest at the last tender stage, I'm sure it will be sold if the council want the money.

Re: EXETER
 

the reason the airport is now worth more is that since the airport was last put up for tender there have been several developments which would lead to an increase in it's value; namely the increase in passenger numbers since the last tender date (over a year ago), subsequent investment in the airport (new baggage belts etc), and new route announcements by flybe and some new charter services. there are now around 40% more daily flights than when the airport was put up for sale the last time, which provides potential for many more passengers to pass through the doors.

Re: EXETER
 

The passenger number increase will have some impact but I would have expected the purchase price to be more based on future potential than current numbers. Any capital expenditure in the last year will increase the purchase price though.

My guess is that the price may be a little (5%?) higher but not much more. We shall see!

This article is from today's Exeter Express & Echo.
http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/displa...entPK=13847826
I just hope it is sold to an airport operator rather than venture capitalists

EXT Summer 07 - any ideas
 

Has anyone heard anything as to new routes for Summer 07? FCA were a hairs width from basing an a/c there for Summer 06 but pulled out - any advance on this for next season?
Looks set to be a busy summer this season with extra flybe routes and RHO,Bourgas and some increased frequencies on the other charters!
Where is the Egypt route??

Flybe. are considerably increasing and swapping route capacity at EXT this summer.
ALC
1645 1_3_5_7 733
1210 ___4___ 143
BHD
1410 1234567 DH4
EGC
0900 ______7 DH4
0950 _____6_ DH4
1055 1_3_5__ 143
BES
0925 ______7 DH4
1315 1_3_5__ DH4
DUB
0955 12345__ DH4
1320 ______7 733
1355 _____6_ 733
EDI
0700 123456_ 143
1010 ______7 DH4
1505 _____6_ DH4
1825 ______7 DH4
1830 12345__ 143
FAO
1635 _2_4___ 733
1655 _____6_ 733
GLA
1010 12345__ DH4
1100 _____6_ 143
1855 12345_7 DH4
GCI
0705 12345__ DH4
1255 _____6_ DH4
1605 12345__ DH4
1610 ______7 DH4
JER
0705 12345__ DH4 via GCI
1020 _____6_ DH4
1605 12345__ DH4 via GCI
1745 ______7 DH4
LBA
0705 _____6_ DH4
1250 ______7 143
1255 _2_4___ DH4
1510 1_3_5__ 143
AGP
0715 1_34_6_ 733
MAN
0645 123456_ DH4
1600 ______7 DH4
1615 12345__ DH4
MJV
1605 _____6_ 143
NCL
1030 123456_ DH4
1910 12345__ DH4
1915 ______7 143
NWI
1230 1234567 DH4
PMI
0720 _2__5_7 733
CDG
0630 123456_ DH4
1730 12345_7 DH4
As you can see the likes of EDI, EGC and DUB amongst others recieve a considerable capacity increase. The base will be 1x733, 1x143 and 3xDH4.
Regards
Mike