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Hey there 22nd Sep 2005 12:19

Arran vs Euromanx, Round 2
 
Three a day on MAN-IOM by Arran from November 24th.

BA vs 3W vs RE

Let the games begin .

dwlpl 22nd Sep 2005 12:21

.....and SEVEN per day Liverpool/IOM from the same date, 24th November.

Hey there 22nd Sep 2005 12:26

. . . and, with Ryanair starting on Dublin - Cork on the same day, Arran are sacrificing six of their nine rotations Cork to make the IOM happen so it's all O'Leary's fault then.

:)

MarkD 22nd Sep 2005 13:23

Any word of the IOM govt support for Arann (note spelling) mentioned in previous threads?

San Expiry 22nd Sep 2005 16:36

IMHO, this is extreeeemly bad news for anyone involved in the airline industry on the Isle of Man. Aer Arran has no vested interest in the Island and will contribute nothing economically. One has to question why they have decided to move in. The government cannot be stupid enough (then again?) to support a venture which could have employment repurcussions on its own people? :{

carltoncole 22nd Sep 2005 17:03

And a handling agent with no pushback capability. With the decomissioning of the link taxiway soon, meaning that all peir stands at EGNS will be push back only, all these new services are gonna be remote waiting for the one bus to ferry them to the terminal, happy days!

MarkD 22nd Sep 2005 17:55

San Expiry

RE are just the kind of operator I would have thought EGNS needs - used to optimising a small catchment area and a good network of existing routes to places IOM people might actually go to like LTN, MAN, EDI etc., and ATRs can get into LCY if necessary. It also has the advantage of being less vulnerable to MOL taking a fancy to opening a base there (like GWY, RE home base).

Now if they can just get CAT II approaches sorted...

Just because it isn't "????Manx" or "Manx ??????" doesn't mean it won't work out.

Sadly ORK has lost 6 flights a day to accommodate this!

San Expiry 22nd Sep 2005 19:37

Mark

The Manx population is probably the most pampered community anywhere in the world as far as air routes/head of population is concerned. They (75000 of them) can already fly to LTN, LCY, LGW, STN, BHX, BRI, MAN, LPL, GLA, BHD, DUB, CDG and GWY ('til the end of the month), LBA and NCL. I stick to what I've said; the Island needs another operator like a hole in the head and it is Manx jobs on the line at the end of the day.:ugh:

MarkD 22nd Sep 2005 20:00

RE announce IOM-MAN, 3 daily

http://www.aerarann.com/iom_man.htm

San Expiry - since IOM folk live on an island I reckon they have to use airlines far more than their population would usually demand (no trains, no buses), especially now ferry business is decreasing (at least in Ireland it is).

If RE bases aircraft at IOM there's jobs for Manx there right? (edited to note - if 3W loads to GWY were any good I am sure POC was taking notice given it is RE HQ)

Not Interested 22nd Sep 2005 21:38

MAN-IOM
 
How on earth can this route possibly have 3 airlines operating it??!!
Its only a matter of time until one goes pop!!!

GOLF-INDIA BRAVO 22nd Sep 2005 23:07

I wonder who? and it looks if Man-HAJ will go as well Any clues?


G-I-B

atprider 23rd Sep 2005 07:46

Who Flies Manchester- Hanover then ? RE or 3W ?

fragul 23rd Sep 2005 07:49

7 a day?
 
Dwllpl - Where did you see 7 LPL-IOM rotations a day mentioned? Can't see it on the RE website?

GOLF-INDIA BRAVO 23rd Sep 2005 08:57

it`s Citiexpress who also operate the IOM flight

G-I-B

dwlpl 23rd Sep 2005 09:19

FRAGUL
 
Its not in the news section or the timetable section.

Look in the 'Book' section and select LPL/IOM for 24th November onwards.

NB. it now shows 6*returns per day not the 7 previously noted.

Hansol 23rd Sep 2005 11:14

Bit of a shambles really AA had their last MCR due to arrive at the airport at 21.30, when it closes at 20.45 !

fragul 23rd Sep 2005 12:43

Thanks dwllpl - Interesting info! 7 rotations looked only just about manageable with one airframe; bit tight on turnarounds I reckoned !

Incidentally - the last return from Manchester shown on the new timetable arrives after IOM airport's normal hours. Can RE operate from an unlicensed Aerodrome?

San Expiry 23rd Sep 2005 12:54

There is no way the airport authority will permit a public transport flight to operate outside hours - it is illegal without crash cover.

Now, perhaps the storemen and shopkeepers who run the IOM have yet to announce that the airport operating hours are about to change?:E

skiddyiom 23rd Sep 2005 13:28

I hope Aer Aran's fares are better than 3W. I looked at BA IOM-MAN-IOM for Oct 1st. Their price, £144.60 return, same day for 3W fare was £278. Makes one wonder how they manage to get any business at those rates. Maybe they have some other incentives - topless F/A's or something :}

skid

Whalerider 23rd Sep 2005 22:56

EUROMANX - SKYHIGH
 
Friend recently flew GLA-IOM-GLA day trip with Euromanx. £284 return for a 35 minute hop each way on a Dash-8.

Euromanx to cease IOM-GLA route 29 Sep - hardly a surprise at those fares !


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