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OzzieO 11th Aug 2005 18:26

What are the pilots going to do make the sandwiches?

MarkD 11th Aug 2005 18:27

Alldaydeli

more likely BA flights are diverting in order to not clog up T1/4 which flights they can't process.

fly bhoy 11th Aug 2005 18:28


I am hearing several conflicting reports LHR actually now CLOSED
It wasn't when I left about an hour or so ago. There are lots of other airlines who operate out of LHR who's groundstaff aren't affected and hence are still operating flights.

It'd be more accurate to say its closed to BA!!! Never thought I'd say that!!!

FB:ok:

ALLDAYDELI 11th Aug 2005 18:32

thanks all, your input is appreciated. Road traffic operating normally around LHR and quieter than usual.

LatviaCalling 11th Aug 2005 18:32

And then there was Ronald Reagan who fired the ATC workers after an illegal walkout and briefly replaced them with military ATCs. Then offered the pros that had been canned to come back. What do you know, most did. End strike.

Despite the burn-out rate, U.S. ATC is still working well.

Faire d'income 11th Aug 2005 18:47

Methinks the pilots would be wise to make allies of the other unions....you will need them when Willy starts wielding. :ugh:

aaaaa 11th Aug 2005 18:50

I agree, sack the lot of them and put the work out to tender, BUT who is going to do the work until the tenders have been sorted out and possibly new staff trained? Nightmare!

BA was starting to look good again and now this, crazy, crazy, people

aa

soddim 11th Aug 2005 18:51

Whatever can be done to stop the misery caused to the people who keep the strikers in employment should be done and soon. People who bite the hand of those who feed them should go hungry.

LTNman 11th Aug 2005 18:56

Just saw an interview on channel 4 news. Gate Gourmet has sacked staff who were not even taking part in the strike as it was their day off. It was all part of their master plan to get rid of workers without paying redundancy while at the same time replacing then with seasonal workers.

Groucho 11th Aug 2005 18:56

Passengers on aircraft since 1400 - no food, of course. Baggage 'not available' until tomorrow.

Is there ANYONE in charge at BA? Then, if there is, get over to latte-land and shake the latte-loungers out of their trees and get them onto the apron. Taxy the aircraft around to allow disembarkation at some convenient point. Use the ll's to unload the baggage as well. BAA will, I'm sure, co-operate. Human rights are 'ok' for terrorist suspects but not for fare-paying passengers?:{

The world's favourite? It is disgusting, no other word for it.

Oh - and sack the 'sympathetic strikers' while you are there. There are enough 'managers' to cover while you recruit. Run an airline, not an 'honours' machine?

Jordan D 11th Aug 2005 18:59

Whilst the issue of GG is one thing, the behaviour of the BA staff taking this wildcat action is abhorent. They have selfishly grounded an airline who have no control of an external company. When they next look in their pay packet and wondering why they haven't got bonuses, they should probably remember that this action has turned away a lot of BA pax and cost the company an awful lost of money.

Jordan (SLF)

IanH 11th Aug 2005 19:03

Did Gate Gourmet go on strike in sympathy with the BA ground staff when they had their last strike ?

Oh ....... by the way selfish LHR BA Ground staff, thanks for potentially ruining the very expensive trip of my life that I was supposed to be going on this weekend.............

Idunno 11th Aug 2005 19:06

I spose all you guys egging on Willy realise that as soon as he's shafted them - you're next?

Turkeys - Christmas - etc etc etc........:ooh:

v6g 11th Aug 2005 19:10

I'm wondering what the legal situation would be if say, as a passenger, you'd been sitting in a stationary aircraft (and engines are off) many hours after landing (quite possibly from a 14-hour flight), if you got up and pulled the emergency shute to "make your own way out". Could it be classified as false imprisonment? Also, why can't the pax unload the baggage in these situations? Or is that the kind of self-initiative and entrepreneurial spirit that is too much lacking in today's Britain?

Patience must be wearing thin.

Stu Bigzorst 11th Aug 2005 19:14

The pax would hurt himself on the slide and sue the airline. If his injury was small enough to allow him to struggle into the hold and hurt himself there, he'd sue again.

You'd be shocked at how many people a month attempt to sue large airlines.

Stu

Railgun 11th Aug 2005 19:14

Pax are not holders of an airside pass's for a start then there are the facts that they have no idea how to operate the machinery correctly. I would guess by now they will gradually be letting the pax off the flights that have been sat around but that is only a guess.

Welcome to BA Willie not long till you get full control now, be he cannot wait!

Human Factor 11th Aug 2005 19:19

Happy to help. I just want to see sackings FIRST!!!

Riverboat 11th Aug 2005 19:20

Large established British companies, heavily unionised, are an embarrasment to the country. Most of them have gone bust, but some, like BA, have a basically excellent product, and no end of useful bi-lateral agreements, that have allowed them to keep going. There are some great people in BA who really care, and this action, by a few, and a few who are known to be a disater area, is letting all those good people badly down. Plus the passengers, plus the country.

Certainly the top management of BA should stop being short-termist, and tackle this matter head on, even if it means a long strike. It is the only way to clear the matter up: management has to be STRONG.

Sadly, as many of us know, middle management in BA is often pathetic, so WW and his mates will have to tackle that problem too. One suggestion is that they cut out trying to be the ideal politically correct organisation, and instead do what is right by the vast majority of its staff and all of its passengers.

In a terrible way, this ghastly action should motivate the directors and management to do what they would probably not otherwise have done. Let's hope so. We never want to see this happen again.

No_Speed_Restriction 11th Aug 2005 19:27

a serious point I have to make regarding a previous post:

are those pilots licenced to make kosher sandwiches as well?

Oy Vey!

IanH 11th Aug 2005 19:52

Did Gate Gourmet go on strike in sympathy with the BA ground staff when they had their last strike ?

Oh ....... by the way selfish LHR BA Ground staff, thanks for potentially ruining the very expensive trip of my life that I was supposed to be going on this weekend.............

Sorry, for some reason the above got posted twice .....


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