"InZid wun, clid to lahnd, too six lift"

(the Kiwi accent to my ear)

US Immigration, in my opinion, is relatively sad. I'm a US resident, but I get a better reception in NZ than I do here at home (go figure). I think they're so intent on quelling the terrorist's urge to travel that they're willing to p!ss everyone else off as well.

"Make it unpalateable to travel to the US, and terrorists won't want to come here." (Don't you believe it!)

Hmmm... If NZ does an LGW-AKL via HKK, then they'd be a 'Round The World flier, and I may just have to try that. LAX-LHR, switch airports to LGW, LGW-HKK-AKL, stay a few days, AKL-LAX. Ahhhh, the heady days of Pan Am. :D :ok: How many airlines these days can claim RTW route structure?

New NZ Route
 

I've thought the new route has already been announced
AKL via SFO and into LHR alongside the AKL-LAX-LHR

All these attempts at NZ accents read more like Brummie to me. :rolleyes: :}

From a purely Gatwick point of view, it would be desirable to have the LAX/AKL routing from Gatwick because there are no services from Gatwick to the US West Coast and it is a large gap in the airport's route structure. Oasis Hong Kong is due to start HKG-Gatwick in July with a 747-400 and after having not had a HKG link at Gatwick for years, two will come along at once.

However, I'm sure other considerations - not least the fact that NZ have a long-established operation on Heathrow/LAX - will outweigh the minor issues of what airport already has what service.

Good as gold marvin! ;) eh ?

Except Marvin I am a New Zealander, and Brum sounds nothing like us:ok:

Plus I've been to "dordleey" and "berrminnham" :p

Garuda Indonesian
 

Dont think we will see them at LGW for a l o n g time!

They are currently loosing in excess of USD8m/year, and the CGK route is just low yield bucket and spade [or sandals]

They have a daily codeshare arrangement with MAS into LHR which works well for them and offers a direct 90 mins connex at KUL......

Sorry - but sadly - they pulled out of the AMS and FRA for the same reason......... and have no European services.

oops should have read loosing more than USD850m a year ...........

You don't have to fly Air Noo Zillund to get a frosty reception from Homeland Securitah, but it is the reason I switched to Asian hubs (get your mind out of the gutter) when going to that part of the world. Used to be quite a good airline so I hope the buggers do bloody well mate.

Lets get this quite clear, as I thought this thread was about Air New Zealand. Garuda might be losing money, but Air NZ have made a healthy profit over the last couple of years...

I hope like hell that LGW takes off, I want a jumpseat to call my own in that 747 but I'll settle for an overhead locker to hide in, a few kindly words from the Captain and a pay-check.

LOST.

not without changing the current ASA . NZ are limited to 7 weekly flights in each direction between the USA and LHR - these are already used up with the daily LAX service ... if they want to operate via SFO they will have to do one of the following


1/ operate it to somewhere other than LHR eg LGW or MAN

or

2/ renegotiate the ASA ( and it was only renegotiated a few months ago )

or

3 / drop LAX-LHR ( supposedly a good high yield earner so not likely )

Does anybody have any further update on this? Is there definatly a new service and when, where etc?
Thanks

I had assumed that this route was being operated via HKG, but it now appears that, although it will be going ahead, it will be operated via SFO. ANZ already flies 777s to SFO, so it will be a continuation of that route. (This came from an ex-ANZ person).

I had also understand that one of the objectives of the route was to give UK bound pax an option to fly via a non-US port, because of irritation over Immigration procedures there.

ANZ to UK
 

On a recent flight from Fiji to LAX, the cabin crew were talking about new service to MAN at sometime in future. They didn't think it would be via LAX and thought B767/B777 maybe used. No timescales were mentioned.

SFO or HKG?
 

So, which will it be - via San Fran or HK?

Is there a start date set yet?

ANZ UK
 

I agrre with the first comment about missing out US going east, but there is also a lot of competition in that direction.
The cabin crew seemed to think 2 - 3 x week via SFO would be the option with even an extension into Europe.
Must be an untapped market for both West Coast & NZ in Northern England.

AKL-SFO-LON won't remove the irritation of having to be subjected to US immigration procedures despite being on a direct transit, but at least SFO would be a step in the right direction, being a great deal more pleasant than the hell-hole that is LAX.

I have contacted ANZ and have been told they have no intention of operating into Gatwick so make of that what you will

I was told by a NZ cc friend of mine that LGW is a dead cert, via HKG or possibly SHA.

Regards

Mike

The airport is certainly under the impression that ANZ are coming back, and it will be Gatwick-Hong Kong-Auckland daily with a 777. The whole point is that ANZ needs to have some alternative to LAX given the US immigration problems.