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wars 1st Jan 2005 16:36

Incident at EIDW
 
due to gusty winds 2 parked A/C at Dublin Airport got in contact with each other causing serious damage, leaving about 600 pax
stranded,
anybody more info?

DUBXH 1st Jan 2005 17:20

FLS are en route with masking tape and some Turtle Wax compound...


I'll get my coat.

FlyingV 1st Jan 2005 17:21

I've just seen it on the news. A mini-tornado apparently. Caused a lot of damage across the Dublin-Meath border (serious damage in Clonee).

2 parked A330s blown together. Passengers for New York & Boston won't be travelling until Aer Lingus hires replacement aircraft.

The TV news report should be on the RTE website shortly.

Kestrel_909 1st Jan 2005 17:36

Yikes, noted this earlier for EIDW!

EIDW 011300Z 27043G73KT 8000 R16/P1500 R28/P1500 R10/P1500 SHRA FEW011 SCT024CB BKN039 06/04 Q1003
WS RWY28 BECMG 24030G50 3000 +RA BKN010 BKN018CB

73kts!

Runway 31 1st Jan 2005 17:49

Seen elsewhere: The nose of one rolled into the area just behind the wing of the other. Looks like it was EI133 DUB-SNN-BOS and EI107 DUB-JFK, both seem to have been cancelled.

ElNino 1st Jan 2005 18:10

Also, a Monarch 757 got blown off stand 50 something. It was turned through about 90 degrees and was facing west on AT3.
Lots of ground equipment overturned as well.
Too add to the fun there were a lot of CB's around on the approach to 28 and in the vicinity of Tulso, with the hold active.

j_davey 1st Jan 2005 20:47

i was there when it happened, i had just put the last bag on an aer arran atr at stand 72 when the world just fell apart.....

ei-crk(a330) was pushed sideways and the cockpit roof struck the underside of the port wingtip of ei-daa(a330) . a monarch 757 turned through 90 degrees as mentioned already, an aer arran atr 42 was pushed over nearly onto its wingtip and burst two tyres, and airfrance 146 was blown across a taxiway, lots of steps and loaded baggage dollies were thrown on their side, chocks blew off the back of my float like paper and one of the deck boards blew away nearly hitting an atr next to me. various doors pulled off their hinges etc... etc... firebrigade and ambulances EVERYWHERE!!!

overall one of the scariest experiences of my life!

john.

Flame 1st Jan 2005 21:16

Pictures available here........

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=291854
http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=291856
http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=291855

Jetset320 1st Jan 2005 21:27

Was the airport actually open during this storm?

FlyingV 1st Jan 2005 22:15

There's a little video footage of the 2 aircraft with the TV report but it doesn't show much

http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/0101/weather.html

Farrell, you're welcome for the WWW, but things are finally improving somewhat as it eventually dawned on the powers that be that investment in infrastructure is a good thing! But we've quite a way to go yet.

Upaway 2nd Jan 2005 13:33

dub ei
 
Affected JFK pax left DUB today on World Airlines MD11 EIN2107

hobie 2nd Jan 2005 16:34

Looking at Flame's graphic photo links above, just how complex/lengthy is the inspection work required after such an incident?

ps. thanks Flame for the photo links :ok:

cools 2nd Jan 2005 20:18

Total elapsed time for this incident was a few minutes. The only positive thing about it was that there were no fatalities or injuries, but it was quite scary whilst it lasted and very localised. Many people within a mile or two saw only heavy rain and strong squalls

Workmaster 2nd Jan 2005 22:54

JFK-DUB 02 Jan 05 Cancelled!!!
 
Evening,

My daughter is stuck in JFK due to NO yes NO replacement aircraft
and flight cancelled, first available seats JFK-DUB Saturday 8th,
however could only offer stand-by this evening JFK-CDG-DUB.

Has now been booked tomorrow American Airlines JFK-LHR and then standby LHR-DUB all all flights are showing FULL.

She is a full fare passenger (no more staff rebates as over 23 and unable to travel on my concessions) and also been told to book herself in to a hotel, keep all receipts and claim back from Aer Lingus on arrival Dublin.

As this cancellation is the result of events yesterday, I would have thought that Aer Lingus would have got their act together after 24 hours and obtained a replacement aircraft and not cancel schedule flights at a peak travel period.

I am not impressed with Aer Lingus and their attitude towards their so called valued passengers, call themsevles a FLAG CARRIER with NO back-up when things go wrong, these are schedule services not charter flights by a third rate nation!

:mad:

Engine overtemp 2nd Jan 2005 23:17

Workmaster, where do you imagine that Air Lingus can conjure up spare aircraft from? Give the airline a break, they only have 7 A330's and over 25% of that fleet has now been grounded due to no fault of theirs.

I would agree that they are a flag carrier but Ireland is not that large a country (in terms of population) and as a result only has a modest sized national airline. An airline the size of Air Lingus cannot afford to have a couple of spare planes hanging around on the off chance that the odd tornado might sweep across the apron at Dublin.

Flame 2nd Jan 2005 23:17

Workmaster

Aer Lingus got a World MD11 to operate JFK-DUB last night, arr Dublin 2/1/05. They are finding it impossible to locate aircraft to replace the 2 damaged aircraft, as I am sure you are aware, the after Christmas season is one of the busiest for most airlines and at the moment, most spare capacity in the business is operating flights out of Asia bringing people home after that terrible tragedy

Expect Aer Lingus to cancel at least one transatlantic flight each day till they obtain spare aircraft

O'Neill No6 2nd Jan 2005 23:26

Why did the aircraft"walk"? Didn't they have their brakes on? I've worked with aircraft in very windy conditions, but they don't nromally just roll into each other unless the brakes were off. I've never parked an airliner with it's brakes left off.

Any views?

G-SP0T 2nd Jan 2005 23:36

i work as a depatcher at MAN and have often found that after the chocks are in the brakes are turned off-presumably to limit ware??? although i am aware that their are different ways of chocking the a/c in windy condictions.

Frank Spencer 2nd Jan 2005 23:43

Airplane's brakes are released when chocks are applied to prevent brake disks welding together when the brakes are hot.

Aircraft can move about quite easily in the wind unless preventative actions are taken i.e. aircraft trim set to zero... full nose down, aircraft wings fuelled, and outflow valve closed.

scraglad 3rd Jan 2005 01:40

In severe windy conditions,the a/c main gear,as well as the nose gear are chocked. An engineer told me that by doing this,it stops a/c from swaying or in yesterday's incident's,jumping off stand!!


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