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EMB170 20th Dec 2004 17:59

BACX being bought by Lufthansa??
 
Heard a rumour today that there is a possibility
that lufthansa might be buying BACX from BA.

has anybody heard anything about that or is that just complete
rubbish?
:O

5415N 20th Dec 2004 21:17

Yeah , and lufty sell it`s BMI shares to BA mainline :rolleyes:

Carnage Matey! 21st Dec 2004 00:37

Yeah like BA would sell a subsidiary to Lufthansa that would allow it to bleed off long haul passengers to FRA that might otherwise have routed through LHR. Dream on!

AerSligo 21st Dec 2004 13:30

Ah but BACX doesn't use LHR at all! LCY - Yes. This rumour flew around before the merger of British Regional and Brymon too though...is something in the offing?

Tandemrotor 21st Dec 2004 14:11

I suspect there is little truth in this particular rumour.

For the moment!

It is however widely reported, that 'Skippy' sees no reason to maintain a BA presence in the UK regions, unless it makes a profit.

At this time, I believe, it does not.

And Carnage

The previous poster is of course correct. Mainline have retained (I think) all LHR feeder traffic - Currently shared of course with Titan!

EMB170 21st Dec 2004 14:58

carnage,
BA sold GO to Easy Jet , so why not sell of BACX to Lufthansa?
BA doesn't know how to run a regional airline and has no interest in doing so either.
BACX is just used to give BA's junior manager's training on the job and has done so for year,even before the merger of Bral,Brymon and Bar, when they have screwed up and made a name for themself,
they go back to ba and show of there new skills!!!!!!!!!!!
Before you ba guys have a go at me have a look at your tech manager airbus, i belief he is very popular!
:E

judge11 21st Dec 2004 15:34

If our so-called managers return to BA then may the good Lord help them. After the complete b.......x they've made of CX, BA would be dead and buried in 12 months.

To give you people an idea of the decision making abilities of the twits running CX here's an example which apppeared in the past few days.

'At the moment this is only a proposal and it may well be that it doesn't happen - but it might.'

Pass me my revolver!

Dash-7 lover 21st Dec 2004 17:32

"LH buying TH" Don't make me laugh!! What load of c*ap!! Imaging the politics of mainline handing over 370 flights a day with 62 planes to a rival.........think on!

Sheikh Zabik 21st Dec 2004 20:37

"Mend it, close it or sell it...........my preference is to mend it" So spoke Skippy on the failure of each of the three...(or was it four?) previous flawed attempts by his discredited and incompetent generals in CX to achieve a profit.

With increasing evidence that the latest "Business plan" has lead the company in the direction of all previous ones something is going to have to give.

The subject rumour seems highly unliklely but with the proposal (which is not a proposal....but it might be!!!) about hoofing the RJs to EDI because these are the latest reason the company is losing money one could be forgiven for thinking that the penny might soon drop with our Australian friend.

He needs to seriously address CX, more importantly those who are running it.

There is plenty of evidence that those bits of the business which have been sold off as a result of previous reviews are doing very nicely thank you in the hands of their new more able owners.

The truth is that CX has no future whilst management whose only accolade is consistent and persistent failure remain in office.

crewmeal 21st Dec 2004 21:17

ummmmmm - shades of Duo me thinks but without Messrs Spencer and Bridger to really s***w things up with their lies.

Hopefully common sense will prevail and someone will see that there is stillmarket for a decent regional airline without cutting back on the service

The Little Prince 21st Dec 2004 21:44

Not only....but also.....
 
:O I have recently brought this up with my FM, who actually confirmed this is being seriously looked at as a possible idea. "It may happen, or it may not" was also the phraseology, and it was then pointed out that this phraseology had been used and proved on several occasions before - mainly relating to imminent/possible/probable base closure.

Expect an announcement soon was the only thing which finally prevented me from believing it any further. I have to think this is a pity, because as someone else already noticed, all the bits which have been sold off have nearly instantaneously made a profit, from cargo (GSS) to lo-cost. Sorry, of course Babs was the exception, BA sold that one off even though (or mayhap because) it was such a success.
Achtung, wollen sie fligien mit mier? JA! :ok:

Carnage Matey! 22nd Dec 2004 00:21


Ah but BACX doesn't use LHR at all!
Correct. So currently you have to drive to LHR and maybe connect to a BA long haul flight. You think BA really want to sell BACX to LH so that they can say 'Don't drive to LHR, connect from your local airport to FRA and get a big discount'? Its bad enough with KLM, BAs board are unlikely to faciliate similar competition from LH are they?


BA sold GO to Easy Jet
No they didn't, they sold GO to a finance company at a healthy profit. The finance company later sold GO to Easy.


all the bits which have been sold off have nearly instantaneously made a profit, from cargo (GSS)
Cargo has not been sold off. BA still carry vastly more tonnage in hold cargo than GSS, nor was any part of the entity that is GSS ever owned by BA, it was funded by Atlas. BA World Cargo is a very profitable division in its own right.

AUTOGLIDE 22nd Dec 2004 06:22

Carnage Matey, people already do connect to other airlines without going via LHR...it's only BA who think they are the only airline in the UK and everyone is so very, very depenent on LHR. Suckers.:)

Tandemrotor 22nd Dec 2004 10:09

"but BACX doesn't use LHR at all!"

So shall we stop trapping on about LHR?

I am interested by the suggestion that; "all the bits which have been sold off have nearly instantaneously made a profit, from cargo (GSS) to lo-cost."

As has been pointed out neither GSS, nor Go were 'sold off' as such, and certainly weren't 'sold off' from BACX

So which 'sold off' bits exactly, have gone "instantaneously" from loss into profit?

fatboy slim 22nd Dec 2004 13:11

Tandem - how about the ex-profitable ex-Brymon PLH operation ruined by BACX management. Air Southwest doing fine now its been 'sold off'.

Tandemrotor 22nd Dec 2004 19:00

Air Southwest is a lo-cost carrier. Maybe BACX should follow suit! Then perhaps it could sustain niche markets. Of course, it may not then remain 'British Airways'.

Wonder how ASW pay rates compare with BACX?

Or even Brymon for that matter?

Cornflake 23rd Dec 2004 17:40

It's really comical how quickly and easily Carnage and Tandem alwways rise to the bait.........:}


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