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ATCO1987 7th Aug 2005 08:17


No chance....MYT 757s disappearing at the end of this summer
Ah what, thats no fun! They getting rid of the 767's too? IE becoming a fleet of flying buses?

Who's going to operate the Saturday LOWS flight then? Was previously operated by JMC/TCX and then last year MYT snapped it up. What about this year?

rampboy767 7th Aug 2005 11:01

I heard last about a month ago that EZY want to make BRS an all airbus base by the end of this year.

Vasto1M 7th Aug 2005 11:25

Looks like Air Malta are doing the Saturday Salzburg run on behalf of MyTravel Holidays and Thomas Cook.

BRS SZG 0600 0855 KM4600
SZG BRS 0955 1040 KM4601

MerchantVenturer 7th Aug 2005 12:55


Just a quick one for merchant...Just a quick one for merchant...

No offence old pal (cos you know ur stuff!), but you rely a hell of a lot on figures.
I can assure you that figures are 'tweaked' all the time!

WindSheer,

I accept what you say about figures being 'tweaked' because you are in the business and I'm not so clearly I am therefore in a position not to be able to argue.

Presumably this tweaking is done to the advantage of the airport/airline doing the tweaking. If so, one must assume that all airlines/airports are at it, in which case the relative positions of the various airlines/airports versus rivals would still be roughly the same unless some are better tweakers than others.

Or are you saying the tweaking is so violent that officially published figures, even by someone like the CAA, have no basis or value?

It would be instructive to have a hypothetical example of how the tweaking works, or is it simply a crude tool of adding (or even substracting) a certain percentage of passengers from a route or airport during a given time?

hostiegirl 7th Aug 2005 16:06

i see the flug is delayed AGAIN!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: it was due out to zth at 07.30 still not gone!!!:{ :{ :{

rampboy767 7th Aug 2005 21:51

I was a work dis afternoon and saw it on the ground 12/3hrs still delayed, pax told to wait for new chartered aircraft and put in hotels over night. But both XLA flights today will be late by 24-48hrs prob by the time they go out lol unlucky Islandsflug have gotta get the act together ever year they get a mega delay. Wot a Poor airline.:mad:

hostiegirl 7th Aug 2005 22:07

rampboy767 " wot a poor airline " your being polite!!!! wish they'd peel off the tacky stickers with xla logo on tail and go back to islandsflug as it's xla reputation left in tatters ........AGAIN!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad::mad:

WATABENCH 8th Aug 2005 00:49

Blimey! hostiegirl aint a happy bunny 2day is she! cant blame her tho, totally agree with her, surely word will get round the area bout how crap xla are even tho its flug, theres nowt more powerful than word of mouth, good or bad!

Fernando_Covas 8th Aug 2005 06:35

Since Avion bought into Excel, their reputation has been suffering a lot. Tis a shame because Excel were a good, honest, reliable airline.

MerchantVenturer 8th Aug 2005 13:15

hostiegirl

I emphathise with you completely. This is not helping Excel's reputation at BRS nor the airport itself.

I was out on the edge of the Chew Valley on my bike this lovely summer's day when I saw the Flug scurrying into BRS with tail between wheels. The active runway had been 09 but the Flug appeared on finals for 27 so I thought he was trying to sneak in by the back door without anyone noticing, but no go, because he was followed by several other a/c so the active runway must have been changed.:D

He must have landed from Kefalinnia around 1130 (over eight hours late), so I was surprised to see his next duty, the 0700 to Dalaman, has been delayed until 1500. Does it take over three hours to turn the a/c round, or perhaps there are other reasons such as slot availability?

It really is a great shame. In 2002 and 2004 my wife and I flew returns to Salzburg from Bristol on Excel 738s. We were most impressed with the aircraft, the service, the crew and the punctuality (early each time).

The last time we flew with this airline my wife was returning home having broken her leg whilst on holiday. The Bristol-based cabin crew members were kindness itself and could not have been friendlier. We remember one cabin crew member with a lovely Bristol accent who addressed everyone as 'my luvver' or 'my darlin'. Her attitude was such that no-one could be offended.

Perhaps CO ought to have some cabin staff with west country accents to put American passengers in the mood for visiting the land of Long John Silver and Jim Hawkins.

Vasto1M 8th Aug 2005 15:06

MV,

The flug’s next duty was to operate the XLA6080 ZTH that should have gone at 0730 on Sunday. It left about 1230, 29 hours late.

The Dalaman was sub-charted out to LAT Charter an airline from Latvia and left just after 1500.

hostiegirl 8th Aug 2005 21:55

merchantventurer kefalinnia did indeed land at around 11.30 it then went out to zante just before 1pm 29hours late!!!!!!!!! early dalaman was as vasto1m said subchartered and the late dalaman went on time on an a/c brought in from ncl.everything all running back on time!!!!!!!! :ok:

NCLRULES 10th Aug 2005 11:33

New route to Durham Tees Valley with Eastern Airways!

http://www.bristolairport.co.uk/info...aspx?NewsID=79
http://www.durhamteesvalleyairport.c....shtml#story50

WATABENCH 11th Aug 2005 01:47

Heard from a very good source that TCX will be back in BRS Summer 2007 with 1 based unit, prob A320.
Also got wind of an EK recruitment day in Cardiff somewhere next week, lucky buggers if they 'land' an EK deal in CWL, I have a feeling BRS is now going to start feeling the effects of not haveing a longer runway, ok we have CO, but CWL has a TUI long haul programme, YYZ and YVR(starting nxt yr i think) 2-3 Florida flights and now may end up finally with EK that has been threatening for a while.
This threads gone a bit dead lately, someone must have some sort of rumour, i think i'm gona make one up ummmmmmmmm actually cant be bothered!

Fernando_Covas 11th Aug 2005 08:36


someone must have some sort of rumour
I was at Cardiff the other day and Aer Lingus staff were having a look around. Maybe the daily "fungus" is about to go over the bridge.....

MerchantVenturer 11th Aug 2005 10:49


This threads gone a bit dead lately, someone must have some sort of rumour, i think i'm gona make one up ummmmmmmmm actually cant be bothered!
Don't have any rumours but there is another thread about BACx that talks about reductions at MAN and BHX (announcement supposedly imminent) but BRS hasn't been mentioned. Whether this is because it is too small a BACx base to merit even a rumour in the grand scheme of things, or whether it will be left unscathed will probably soon be revealed.

When I first came on this MB there were numerous confident 'reports' that the BRS base would be closed. In fact, since then it has grown with more based a/c and more routes, and it is reputedly profitable.


I was at Cardiff the other day and Aer Lingus staff were having a look around. Maybe the daily "fungus" is about to go over the bridge.....
Last year BRS-DUB (EI and FR) carried 254,000 scheduled pax and CWL-DUB (FR and 6G) carried 100,000 sched pax. (I have been told on this MB that figures can be 'tweaked' so I give these CAA official stats with that warning).

Taking the figures at face value, it either means BRS has a much bigger market or CWL is underserved. Perhaps an EI from CWL would be in addition to BRS not instead of. However, as the FR flights to both airports will shortly be the larger 738s permanently that might provide enough extra seats for any expansion.


Also got wind of an EK recruitment day in Cardiff somewhere next week, lucky buggers if they 'land' an EK deal in CWL.......
There was a programme on telly a few weeks ago that said that by 2015 Dubai will be the largest holiday destination in the world.

If that is the case we could probably expect flights from most UK regional airports by then. At present Egypt seems to be getting more and more regional flights, so it would not be unreasonable to expect Dubai to be the same if it does become that big, runway lengths not withstanding.

Confirmed Must Ride 11th Aug 2005 12:57

Wouldnt mind seeing EK at BRS - remember they already have a codesharing agreement with CO.

The airport just needs to build a viable transfer unit so that cusotmers do no have to land themselves before proceeding on to another flight.

WindSheer 11th Aug 2005 23:23

Heard a rumour today that FCA will be starting longhaul at BRS in summer 2076!

Watabench you will definately have no hair by then mate! Although I think you may lose it by the beginning of Oct - believe me!!:)

WATABENCH 15th Aug 2005 05:11

Shortly before CWL gettin any decent schedule routes like NYC then matey!
And at least what little hair i got left isn't the same shade as a Heinz Baked Bean :E
Back to business - FCA BRS-SOF this winter for ski

rampboy767 17th Aug 2005 15:56

EZY are not using there air stairs anymore and will be removed from all aircraft in a couple of months. Hopefully by the end of this year EZY wants to make BRS an all airbus base which should be kool, newer aircraft 4 BRS and those A319s look smart in the EZY colour scheme. Any new winter routes bar FCA and XLA/KM? Will Flybe or Air Southwest expand next year? gd news to here for BRS regaruding Eastern Airways, does anyone think Lufthansa will ever start a route to FRA or MUC from BRS or would EZY just expand yet again into Germany?


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