Not heard anything about new South African service, its a pity that Vuelo dissapeared as looking back through his posts he used to ask about new South African services, he might have been able to answer your questions.

According to the airport timetable for November, Air Scandic are operating to Cape Town and Durban on Tues/Sat and to Islamabad on Weds/Sun with a DC10 from 23rd November. The info includes timings and flight numbers, so presumably slots have been reserved at least. No doubt we'll see the reality come the 23rd....

who are the flights to ISB being operated for? A holiday company? PIA?

Air Scandic are not operating to Cape Town Durban and Islamabad they do not have the aircraft the only a/c they will have after the A300 go is one md80 and next year they are lookingat getting a 767 and or 747. they will lease the two finair 757 for the summer

:ok: rampman

wonder what will happen to all those poor bugger that booked holidays to South Africa through CT2 travel. They were pushing direct flights from Manchester to Cape Town heavily in the press and on billboards at MAN.

I hear that Jet2 are to announce a twice daily MAN - BOH in a few weeks time.

Should be good for bringing the BA and BE fares to SOU down further!

Anyone know anything else planned for MAN next year?

I think some of you on this thread may have been right.....

Anyway...

MAN - BOH would be very handy indeed, hope it's true :)

The 1400 Emirates is in as a 772 for next summer, evening stays as the 332.

Regards

Mike

Air Berlin to HAM, TXL, PAD and DUS. Maersk to CPH. FlyBe to SOU. American to MIA all start today and tomorrow.

I am not convinced MIA is a good choice for AA. I still say SFO or LAX would have been a better choice.

Cathay Pacific to put a second freighter into Manchester on Thursdays only(Starts this Thurs) for the winter schedule, shud be a 747-400F

MoM

Ref AA's MAN-MIA ... we are actually approaching the BEST time of the year for visiting Florida. Whilst the British market is geared to a Summer crescendo, Mid-Summer is actually LOW season for North American tourism to Florida (due to hurricane/tropical storm season etc.). Consequently, cheap accommodation deals are offered to the (less well-informed?) UK customers at that time of year. Florida accommodation providers benefit by filling their establishments at a period of low domestic demand; British tourists get to visit the "Magic Kingdom" during the school Summer hols. Good business for mass-market operators.

But the American Airlines MAN-MIA schedule has the opportunity to serve a more discerning market. Affluent Brits on their third or fourth visit to Florida who have learned the best time of year to visit ... and will happily pay the peak accommodation prices to do so. Some of course have bought their own properties. The Winter MAN-MIA flight is ideal for these experienced leisure travellers who actively avoid the Tropical Storm lottery. Plus, MIA can service premium cruise transfer traffic and through-passengers to South American business centres which have been difficult to reach from MAN in the past.

In short, I do not think MIA was a bad choice vis-a-vis LAX or SFO. The latter two offer good potential also (bring them on!), but that does not make MIA a bad call. Admittedly, there is a significant increase in capacity between MAN and Florida this Winter (Virgin MCO, assorted charters SFB etc), but alot of affluent British travellers have learned the advantages of avoiding the Summer months. This Winter we'll see if those travellers can sustain the extra capacity serving Florida's *real* peak period!

Best Regards, SHED.

Thats a point well made, but the stats don't lie, and according to the CAA figures, SFO is one of the most popular USA destinations from MAN.

Are AA expected to revert back to the BOS service next summer or carry on with the MIA as an all-yesr round operation?

Ahhh remembered your old password Vuelo? :)

Heard the pax figs this morning on the way in....

nearly 200.....

Looks pretty good to me considering its the second day of operation.

Besides I am sure AA would do a range of additional services but they have to use the BA terminal...and their buddies ramp facilities.

Surely BA who would not be too impressed if they creamed off yet more pax from the Shuttle....!

Word on the street is that AA wanted to continue BOSTON as it was so succesful, but with BAs hand on the tiller pressure was apparently applied to stop it.......at least for the winter !

Really? I thought it was just a case of there being no demand for a BOS route in the winter, that's certainly what the AA cabin crew told me when I flew to BOS a few weeks ago from MAN.

I don't think BA hold quite as much 'power' at T2 Manchester as people would like to believe.

The real issue at T3 is the lack of avalable stands for widebodied aircraft. Once plans are put forward for the expansion of T3 next year the issue should resolve itself.

Are BA Citiexpress to announce some new routes from MAN for summer 2005? Luxembourg, Leipzig, Salzburg and Lisbon would be nice.....

Of course Luxembourg and Lisbon would mean going head-to-head with daily services provided by Luxair and PGA Portugalia respectively.

It's posted on an air newsgroup that Dragonair are to start weekly MAN - HKG passenger services in spring 2005. Anyone know any more info on this? Wouldnt this be their first European passenger service?

The Chief Executive of Manchester Airport will be participating in a phone-in on BB GMR from 11am tomorrow, you can listen live at www.bbc.co.uk/manchester

You might even like to call him and ask him questions!!

Mr Spooner has just said on GMR that MAN is pushing Air China / China Airlines hard.

He expressed his wish to see CPX return to MAN in the next couple of years, saying " They love Manchester"...yeah right..they have proved that havent they !!

In general Mr Spooner was generally being hassled by the public about a load of nonsense, i.e one old lady was complaining that St Mawgan isnt close enough to Newquay !! Enough said.

Rgds

SC