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NWSRG 28th Sep 2004 16:39

More good news for BFS
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/3695516.stm

Seems Continental will start flights from Aldergrove to Newark in the new year.

Good news all round.

with alacrity 28th Sep 2004 16:53

Yes excellent news indeed.
I think that the Winter rotations may well have to be trimmed but during the Summer the route will be very popular.
In previous years Aer Lingus, World and American Trans Air all achieved good load factors to North America and it will save having to drive to Dublin as well.
Hope it all goes through:)

eastern wiseguy 28th Sep 2004 19:17

I wonder how this will affect the partnership of FlyBe and Continental via the harbour and Gatwick/Birmingham/Glasgow.....all of which were feeders ......Allmcc where are you?:E :E

CaptJ 28th Sep 2004 19:23

Heh, heh, my wife will be happy anyway.

No more slogging to Gatwick on the unreliable flybe to catch a Continental flight to Houston.

Continental are a good airline and in better shape than most.
She is a fan of that nice Mr Bethune too. (He's good coz he was a pilot!)

Welcome to Belfast!

Kestrel_909 28th Sep 2004 19:52

Wohoo :)

Start planning the holidays for NY then :)

EGAC_Ramper 28th Sep 2004 21:07

Good news indeed,pity 'll still have to slog transfer bags for a while yet!!:p

kopbhoy2 28th Sep 2004 21:49

I caught part of a BBC NI news reoprt earlier - what a/c are they planning on using for BFS-EWR? All I heard them say was it was a 'small' aircraft. How small? Continental started EWR-DUB using a 757 but now use 767's.

Kestrel_909 28th Sep 2004 22:01

I'd guess on a 757.
Dublin and Glasgow get 757s in winter to EWR, and 764s in summer as far as I know. I'm not sure about EDI, think it's 757 all year round at the minute?

NWSRG 28th Sep 2004 23:13

According to the local press tonight, a 757 with 170 seats! That's a very big 170 seater...space should be generous if this report is correct.

CaptJ 29th Sep 2004 07:32

BFS-EWR Aircraft type
 
It might be more an indication of the size on the Business class section!

GustyOrange 29th Sep 2004 08:14

Kestrel,

GLA gets 762 in winter, 764 in summer.

Gusty

MerchantVenturer 29th Sep 2004 11:11


According to the local press tonight, a 757 with 170 seats! That's a very big 170 seater...space should be generous if this report is correct.
Continental will use a 172-seat B 757 when they commence their BRS-EWR service next May.

There will be 16 seats in Business/First and 156 in Economy.

Doubtless the BFS aircraft will be configured similarly.

Cyrano 7th Oct 2004 09:48

At a press conference this morning it was confirmed that Continental are starting BFS-EWR from next May. Good news! :ok:

This from the BBC (full story here ):


New Belfast-NY flight

An American airline has confirmed it is to begin a regular direct service from Belfast to New York.

The US based airline Continental has announced that it is to begin direct flights between Belfast International Airport and Newark airport near New York.

The service will operate daily during the summer and four times a week during the winter.

On Thursday, the airline said the new service would provide easier and faster travel options for travellers between Northern Ireland and the US.

The managing director of Belfast International, Albert Harrison, said the service was great news for both business and tourism in Northern Ireland.

The service begins on 27 May 2005.

In September, BBC Northern Ireland's business editor, James Kerr, said it was a "badly kept secret" that management at Belfast International and Continental had been in talks for months.

The service will receive start-up grant aid from the government's air route development fund.

It has also played a part in some of the other international routes that have come on stream in recent months.
(First BRS... now BFS... is this the secret pattern behind CO's route planning? :) ) What's next? BES (Brest)? BBS (Blackbushe)? :D )

maehara 7th Oct 2004 10:15

"I wonder how this will affect the partnership of FlyBe and Continental via the harbour and Gatwick/Birmingham/Glasgow.....all of which were feeders"

Was searching on continental.com for BHD-EWR and got this message:
"Belfast City, Northern Ireland (BHD) is not currently served by Continental or its partners. Service ends Sun., 27 Mar., 2005."
...so it seems the flyBe codeshare is ending.

Still nothing on their website about the BFS route, though. Curious to see what the fares will be like. The inaugural flight's on my birthday, so I could be tempted to treat myself if the price is right...

BELHold 7th Oct 2004 16:47

This could be the saving grace for Servisair during winter if they win the handling contract.

Anyone else heard the rumour about Menzies coming to BFS for a spot of Babysitting.

JIPPO 7th Oct 2004 18:12

The new Continental Airlines service from Belfast International to New York Newark Airport commences 27 May, inbound the previous evening from Newark.

DAILY CO 95 BFSEWR 0900 1125

DAILY CO 94 EWRBFS 1955 0730+1

The service operates non stop using a Boeijng 757

Nice to see a Belfast New York non stop flight. Service should do well for them, both as a new non stop destination, but also with their many connections available through Newark.

MarkD 7th Oct 2004 18:28

wonder what effect this will have on DUB and SNN (downgrade to 762 or 752-3 instead of 764?) or will it "grow the market"? If the latter, it's great news all around.

Confirmed Must Ride 8th Oct 2004 16:18

Also being one of he first into EWR is going to mean quieter immigration....

jabird 8th Oct 2004 18:58

Why does this go down to 4 / week, when all the others are daily (IIRC)?

Is it down to the lack of ability to distribute pax around different airports if load factors fluctuate(eg GLA-EWR; EWR-BHX-GLA), with interline options going through BHD instead.

Or is there simply less proven demand for such flights from Northern Ireland - after all BRS, GLA, EDI etc all have regular feeders to other European hubs, whereas BFS only has the no-frills.

CaptJ 10th Oct 2004 18:49

I suspect they are just hedging their bets on the winter rotations. Its a lot easier to increase than decrease. I'd be most surprised if this route was anything other than a big success.

Maybe there is an expectation that the traffic will be more biased towards leisure travel. 4 days a week in the winter is a slight disincentive to business travelers.

I've remarked that American airlines operating out of Dublin tend to operate a larger % of seats Business class, than do IE.

These flights can draw on traffic that would otherwise connect via Heathrow/Gatwick, drive to Dublin, or use florida/Canada charters. When you consider that connecting via Heathrow or Gatwick incurs almost £40 in taxes/charges alone, there is a large incentive to fly direct. I suppose that means few bargain fares :{

It's only a 172 seat 757, there will be many months with excess demand.


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