All Things EMA
 

With various topics having been discussed it might be good to have a thread bringing together all things to do with EMA at the moment.

With various subjects hanging in the wings, what are the latest bits of gossip flying arround your neck of the airport?

The ICC meeting, held at DHL's offices on 04/06/04 had item * on the agenda as:

8. Presentation on New Terminal Development

Anyone heard anything?

bmi regional are adjusting their schedules/routes mid summer, rumours of CPH from EMA. What is the latest regional news?

How is the easyJet fully self service check in going?

What are the latest FR rumours?

Lets have a big EMA melting pot, I'm sure 737James, mike16 and Little Blue may all have good info to add.........................

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How is the easyJet fully self service check in going?

Speaking to a friend of mine who works for Servisair at NEMA, not too well. Apparently, the machines are constantly breaking down with techincal problems, if lots of flights are checking in at once - the number of machines are inadequate causing huge queues, and the staff feel helpless if a problem arises, because they can only check the bag, not re-print any labels or boarding passes.

At bmibaby this month, we will be recieving a set of self-service ticketing kiosks at NEMA, with plans to introduce them to other UK bases over the next six months. These, unlike at Easy, will not replace the traditional check-in system, but will instead provide a fast-track check-in process which bmi mainline already offers for its business passengers at LHR.

bmi regional will be re-evaluating their services from NEMA over the next month. Brussels will definately be staying on the network, and there are rumours of either a brand new route, or other business cities going over to regional. I did hear something about regional looking into the 318 for larger routes not covered by the 319 or too big for the ERJ-145.

It's unlikely that bmi will launch flights from NEMA to Scandinavia or Germany, and mainline & baby are always trying to convince Lufthansa & SAS to launch routes, but because they have a strong presence at BHX this is unlikely to change. Rumors are still making the rounds that Germanwings will be arriving, being sped up by the new Easy route to Koeln. No news of Snowflake!

Ryanair are apparently looking into Frankfurt (Hahn), Glasgow (Prestwick), Milan (Bergamo), Venice (Treviso) and Rome (Ciampino).

That's all the rumors at NEMA that I know of ... until soon

Hii Ema lot !!!!!!



Well i can speak about the new self check in, yes the first few weeks were a nite mare. Now they are up and running and they are doing very well, no complaints at all !
We have asked the pax if they like them and all of them have given it a big thumbs up.
When new technology arrives, yes there are people who moan and groan, but i always say, give it a go, if it makes your life easier.
Rumours at EZY at EMA are, and yes they are rumours, We may be having the Airbus soon, 4 of them, which is great news for us all, this would also mean, 4 more new routes......
Everyone is guessing where they will be, so i am not going to say any destinations, as this is not fair.......
I have also heard that BMI baby is looking into setting up at BHX, very soon, so does anyone know anymore ???


Take care all

Mike

Hi

the easy stuff sounds good at ema if it materialises, its about time there was some major expansion after all they and ryanair both operate a decent well suited operation out of NEMA.

As for bmibaby going to BHX, can someone tell me what planet are they on, what are they thinking, high landing fees, less slots not they have slots (well more options for delays) and less than 1 hours drive from EMA. They should concentrate on EMA and MAN and ditch Teeside and Cardiff, perhaps expanding at Gatwick. Dublin should go bmi regional very quickly IMO and also there should be new routes to copenhagen and a german destination - perhaps frankfurt as well for them. Perhpas some operated by A319s by mainline or A318s if they get them. Althoug A318 is not available with IAE engines unlike theyre 319/320/321s have. Bmibaby should introduce expansion at EMA on holiday routes such as further spanish or greek and canary destinations, perhaps some more french destinations. 8 aircraft should be operated out of EMA. Germanwings should launch EMA to cologne and Snowflake EMA-Oslo or Stockholm since theyre partners in star alliance and bmibaby is linked to bmi obviously, who are part of this alliance.

Ryanair seem to be going well, if they add the rumoured routes then the future should be bright for them, although if bmibaby don't see sense i cant see them being for much longer well not at NEMA anyway. No offence to anyone but it seems to be stupid decision after stupid decision at the moment.

Just my thoughts

I have heard in the past that EMA - BFS could well be transferred back to mainline/regional and operate to/from BHD, as before. Would seem to make sense as I believe this route is mostly business orientated. Anyone any clues?

Well personally I have not heard the rumour about us going to BHX well i very much doubt it to close our Ema base but I do expect expansion at LGW soon.
I think the EMA-BHD rumour is just that but I do agree majority of pax are business people at present especially in mornings and early midweek but Thurs,Fri and wknd sees alot more leisure pax.
I don't know much about the self check in service I have had a look at the Easy stuff looks ok to me and if we are getting similar service to mainline machines should be good.
On a different note it must be getting close to the weekend again with quite a few of our flights carrying at least an hour delay oh no please not another mad weekend:ugh:

i'd be surprised by any major growth at NEMA by anyone but Ryanair.

baby seems to have settled on 6/7 aircraft, easy has been at 3 since the start.

could baby go to bhx and easy to finningley and NEMA become a ryanairport?

I know that's a depressing thought but all the execs keep predicting the mother of all price wars..... would they therefore not be better off with their own piece of turf each?

Anyone know which planning authority EMA is under and whether they have a website? Just wondering as I was told the other day that UPS have a planning application in for the Cargo apron at the 27 End.

Yep Ryanair planning major expansion from NEMA with 25 more cadets to get base checked! Tickets to go on sale soon...... :p

Hi Daysleeper



I have heard this rumour as well, apparently they want something like the DHL base, not as big, but similiar.
The airport comes under NW leics council.
I am from S.Derbys so sorry i don't know there website , but good luck

Mike

Yeah - the local authority is Northwest Leicestershire District Council, in Coalville. Website www.nwleics.gov.uk

I have had a look for a page that lists planning applications - I am dieing to see some plans of the Terminal proposals. Some have suggested it is basically a big extension to the Check-in hall, others say a total new build.

Whatever it is - I beg one thing - please please get rid of all the pillars - man alive! It is like a Greek Temple, but without the naked statues! Pillar Central - knock it down!! :{

Have a great weekend all - keep all ears to the ground!

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daysleeper

you are correct on new ups hub 27end, implementation team working now for a 2007/8 compleation and by 2012 upto
20 daily flights, however as you may well know things change
quickly in this business.

happy cargoing

Good Afternoon All,

With Regards to the new UPS Hub. I have been asking questions at work and here is the full story.

The new hub site is to be situated opposite the pegasus business park on far side of runway with access from the A453. It will be bigger than DHL and may become the new European Super Hub, taking over from Cologne. The possability of offering space out to another large freight carrier is also on the cards offering at least 10 weekly flights. UPS will be offering almost 5 times more flights than currently operated.
Work is expected to start within the year, with completion expected around the same time as the new passenger terminal.

Kind Regards

Stu

BTW i work at UPS Brokerage

that will make things interesting operationally, assuming no parallel taxyway north of the runway, then its along the alpha and back across the active on 27 to the UPS aprons!

Have you seen the size of what UPS are building in CGN? They are not about to walk away from that. It must have cost them close to 100 Million Euro.

EMAcargo

you say there's a possability of another large freight carrier
operating from ups facilities, any info on who this carrier is?
rgds cargo happy

The new UPS hub at EMA is costing close to £100 million with Apron etc.

Cargohappy,

Unfortunatley not sorry. On one hand i heard Cathay/Hong Kong Air sending all UK flights here then Fedex so who knows, but do know that will be a foreign carrier.

EMACargo

V Interesting rumours! I had heard similar, but not for a little while. Are you suggestiing that a new UPS facility would be built on the Lockington side of 27?

There is plenty of room on that side and good access to the M1/A453.

It would be not impossible to drop an facility equal in size to DHL Cargo West on the Lockington side (expect HUGE anti campaign from Lockington/Hemington residents).

Regarding the runway - building a northern parrallel taxiway the entire length of the runway would not be neccessary. It would be quite feasible to provide taxiways oposite the Sierra Taxiway, Whiskey Taxiway and opposite the Alpha Hold for 27. With 3 crossing points the crossing of the active to access the "North Apron" would be no different from the current situation at MAN.

Will be interesting to watch this unfold!

egnxema
could'nt see us getiing a parallel as far as sierra-and even so it is not ideal to cross the active with every arrival for ups-I will have to improve on my spacing a bit!

almost prof.

"Could not see us getting.."
Is that because of the slope of the land, or planning issues?

Can you think of another way round the problem?

Actually - I am sure the proposals in the Gov White Paper for expansion at EMA suggested that a new apron be built due south of Cargo West, on the south side of the A453, access to/from it by extending the Juliet Twy over the A453.

Just another thought - at LHR, when 27R is the take off runway, how does traffic leaving from T4 taxi across 27L, the active landing runway? Does it cross it, or go round it? will have to look at some charts.......

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Just looked at the LHR charts and it looks like they cross an active 27L when going from T4 to 27R.