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RUDAS 12th May 2004 11:21

Iranair
 
I heard recently that Iranair plans to replace its SP's sometime soon.

Since they're the last ones in Airline service (i think?),it makes sense,but what are they getting in their place?

Anyone know if this rumour is true? if so,when will the SP's be gone?


thanks,R:{

aeulad 12th May 2004 12:21

Syrian Arab also fly the SP, as do several VIP and governmental bodies.

Regards

Mike

Mark Lewis 12th May 2004 13:36

Iran Air still have a very much airworthy fleet of 5 I think?

akerosid 12th May 2004 16:28

Yes, they still operate 747SPs and a few -200s and a single -100B. They'll have to get used to continuing with them for a good while to come because although funding is available for the planned acquisition of A330s, Iran's continuing pariah status (particularly as a result of its nuclear plans) is going to ensure that sanctions remain in place for some time to come.

I understand that plans are well advanced for Tu204s to be acquired to replace some of the airline's short haul fleet.

Kelas 13th May 2004 11:00

Replacing the aircraft is not going to be easy! Sanctions are still in place and look to be for some time yet. Iranair would be very limited in choice, if any.

RUDAS 13th May 2004 13:43

yeah,thats what i thought.what about stage 4 though?

WHBM 13th May 2004 14:37


I understand that plans are well advanced for Tu204s to be acquired to replace some of the airline's short haul fleet.
Are the export Tu204s not fitted with Rolls Royce engines ? Also western avionics etc. In which case the high-tech sanctions will still apply.

mini 13th May 2004 20:11

SAA were operating Sp's, anyone knoe their status?

RUDAS 14th May 2004 08:34

yeah,SAA retired their SP's (in fact all their 200 and 300's as well).the last -300 flew in April.The last SP went in January:{

Boss Raptor 15th May 2004 14:04

Well Iran Air have purchased/or in process of purchasing A330's - however due to US embargo the Lessor concerned will not sell them the engines which are embargoed items...they are in the market for a batch of RR Trents but doubt they will get them!?

My source well let's just say within Iran Air and very high up...and yes I did laugh when I was asked :E

Stan Woolley 15th May 2004 15:04

I thought two of SAA's 747SP's were sold to an operator in W Africa.

Anyone know different?

sunbird123 6th Jul 2010 12:39

Iranair on Eu blacklist
 
Iranair A320,b727,b747 banned from EU airspace.

Tom the Tenor 6th Jul 2010 13:58

Why is the A320 banned?

No_Speed_Restriction 6th Jul 2010 14:28

Banned? I was under the impression that companies like BP would prefer not to do business with them as per the new sanctions.

akerosid 6th Jul 2010 17:11

It's just not their week, is it!

However, bear in mind that the banning of the 747s and A320s is an EU decision and is independent of the fuel issue, which arose yesterday.

Latest EU blacklist bans Iran Air A320s and 747s

As to why the A320s were selected, it is hard to know; it may well have been that IR has been unable to maintain the A320's avionics to a satisfactory level, due to lack of spares/equipment/expertise. However, I think the A320 issue is minor, in that having looked through the flight schedules, only a small number of IR A320 flights operate to the EU (MXP, VIE and one of two others); most are operated by A310s, A300s and (until today) 747s.

For obvious reasons, IR's 747s are among the oldest operating to LHR and have the unenviable distinction of having operated there during each of the past five decades - from '70s to '10s:

JetPhotos.Net Photo » EP-IAM (CN: 21759) Iran Air Boeing 747-186B by John Fitzpatrick

Tom the Tenor 6th Jul 2010 18:05

Seems a little unfair - how many 747s or A320s have IR lost in the last ten years?

niknak 6th Jul 2010 19:56


Seems a little unfair - how many 747s or A320s have IR lost in the last ten years?
Surely it's better to ground them if there's any chance that requisite standards aren't being complied with rather than wait for the worst to happen?:uhoh:

EGNT 6th Jul 2010 20:09

Suppose this means no more -200's or SP's into LHR?

Civagiarn 7th Jul 2010 12:21

:uhoh: thats very sad, those were probably the last noisy planes operating at LHR, plane spotting won't be the same.

On the Straight and Level 7th Jul 2010 17:06

How will this affect passenger bookings for LHR?

Presumably if the 747 SP's are banned, Iran Air will continue using their older Airbuses but....

1. Are there enough of the widebody Airbuses to serve the European destinations?
2. Will they have to offload pax through utilising the old Airbuses?
3. By doing this does this mean the cabin classes change e.g. was there 1st class on the 747 which there isn't on the A3xx series?
4. Is it likely that Iran will try a tit-for-tat with the European carriers and ban them? Think this is very unlikely as they probably will want to keep as much traffic operating through their airports (along with duty free sales), especially with all the new shops at Theran Iman Khomanei (sp.) airport.


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