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skytravel 3rd Sep 2003 02:20

Southampton - Faro, First Choice holidays
 
Hi I saw that First Choice holidays are starting a new route from Southampton - Faro. On the First Choice booking website it said it was with air2000. Is this true? And if it is, which aircraft type will be used?

If it isn't air2000 does anyone know the airline that will serve this route?

Cheers

BAe 146-100 3rd Sep 2003 04:00

Hi,

Probably will be a A320 if the flight is operated by AMM.

BAe 146-100

skytravel 3rd Sep 2003 14:56

Yes I thought the A320 as well. But then again the 757 is operated by Britannia to Palma!! I suppose I will have to wait and find out if no one else knows lol :p

chippy63 3rd Sep 2003 15:49

Isn't the runway a bit short for a fully-loaded 757 or 320 on a hot summer day?

skytravel 3rd Sep 2003 16:08

I flew from Southampton on a 734 a few weeks back and it was about 75% pay load. So maybe yes it is too short for a fully loaded jet like an A320. But then, think about the extra thrust from the 757 engines. Maybe a 757 would be fine fully loaded, and Britannia never seem to have any troubles!

BAe 146-100 3rd Sep 2003 21:03

Hi,

The runway length of SOU is 1723m x 37m, that is probably too short for a fully loaded A320.

BAe 146-100 :)

chippy63 3rd Sep 2003 21:25

skytravel,
Yes, I agree with you on the 757. I quite often take a Sunday evening flight from Heathrow to Paris, often operated with a lightly loaded 757. The acceleration and take off are quite something.

newswatcher 3rd Sep 2003 21:26

I thought the t/o range for an A3xx was c1650-2500m, which puts SOU at a distinct disadvantage, since isn't the effective t/o length only 1650 metres?

Actually, skytravel First Choice tell me that they are no longer operating a SOU-FAO route. The plot thickens! :confused:

skytravel 4th Sep 2003 02:19

newswatcher, well that is so surprising as they are still selling the holidays on the SOU-FAO route! How weird! This would be the first route from SOU for First Choice as well, commencing in May 2004...

Well at SOU we do have an Iberworld A320 operating to PMI and a Spanair A320 operating to Tenerife via Nantes. Although I have never flown on the A320 from SOU so i have no idea of pax levels. But on the B734 it was about 75% load factor.

BAe 146-100 4th Sep 2003 02:31

Hi,

Why does the JKK Tenerife flight operate via Nantes?

BAe 146-100

skytravel 4th Sep 2003 02:34

To pick up more fuel

BAe 146-100 4th Sep 2003 02:53

Hi,

Do they pick up passengers at Nantes?

BAe 146-100

skytravel 4th Sep 2003 02:55

Not that I'm aware of. The het is just a chartered service for Thomson and Airtours holidays I believe...

MerchantVenturer 4th Sep 2003 05:40

skytavel

One of the Air Malta Tuesday flights from BRS to Malta has been coming via SOU this summer, presumably to drop off and pick up pax there. It then takes on a full load of fuel at BRS for the return to Malta. A bit ironic really when one considers that BRS's runway is only about 6,600 feet long.

I presume the equipment is a 737-300.

kwimper 4th Sep 2003 05:48

In ISA conditions and calm wind a 757-200 can takeoff from 02 at about 98 tonnes and 20 at approx 96 tonnes - with typical ZFM of 81 tonnes full this leaves more than enough fuel for Faro, Palma etc.

skytravel 4th Sep 2003 14:40

MerchantVenturer

Well I didn't know that about the Air Malta services! Yes the equipment is a B733

kwimper

Thats very interesting info. The 757 seems the best option then if AMM do take up this route...

newswatcher 4th Sep 2003 15:45

Skytravel, well you know the "modern" corporation - left-hand/right-hand etc........

They have a "chat-room" facility on their site. I was asking them about something else, and "threw" your question in. "Estelle" told me that "we no longer fly this route". Perhaps they use a carrier other than Air2k.

skytravel 4th Sep 2003 15:52

I guess that must be the case then lol

Oh well!

Localiser Green 4th Sep 2003 16:59

Britannia are operating SOU-TFS this Winter with a 757-200 every Friday (positions in from LGW about 9-10am then positions back to Gatport in the evening).

If they can do TFS non-stop then AMM can do FAO with a 752 no sweat.

skytravel 4th Sep 2003 17:13

Are you sure that it is a non-stop service? Great if it is lol

According to BAA's website that service is still operated by Spanair... and is the BY service on behalf of Thomson AND Airtours? If not maybe Airtours are chartering in the Spanair A320... Thanks for that Localiser Green, I didn't know!


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