Air Europa from SOU
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I am flying with Air Europa from Southampton-Palma in two weeks on the AEA124/125. Does anyone know what 737 series I will be flying on? I have seen a number of 734's there recently, but was just interested to know thats all.
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I am flying with Air Europa from Southampton-Palma in two weeks on the AEA124/125. Does anyone know what 737 series I will be flying on? I have seen a number of 734's there recently, but was just interested to know thats all.
Cheers,
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About the -800's. Wouldn't at all surprise me if those are kept for their growing Schedueled network, and the -400s doing the mainstay of the charter routes.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
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I would be surprised either jmc757. On their scheduled routes they are also using an MD-83. Is this aircraft on lease from Spanair? It's a surprise to me that they are operating an aircraft other than a 737/767.
Really Diamond geezer? I thought Spanair's A320's operated the TFS service
Really Diamond geezer? I thought Spanair's A320's operated the TFS service
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As the runway is quite short, all the passengers have to race from the front of the plane to the rear in order for it to get airborne during the take off roll, if they resist, the plane has to land at Hurn for more fuel!
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Yes don't I know it! I have been flying PA28's from SOU for a year, and I have been holding at the brava one for those 146's to depart and they use up so much runway! It's unbelievable!
Do you think the 737's refuel enroute to PMI from SOU as well now? I wouldn't be surprised, the r/way is very short here isn't it
Do you think the 737's refuel enroute to PMI from SOU as well now? I wouldn't be surprised, the r/way is very short here isn't it
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I doesn't matter if your in a Pa28, 737, 747 or a bloody Cri-Cri. You should be using the full length at all times. (club policy if I remember anyway). If your engines quit you can't use the extra length behind you...Besides Baa don't charge by the foot, so get your monies worth..
I doesn't matter if your in a Pa28, 737, 747 or a bloody Cri-Cri. You should be using the full length at all times. (club policy if I remember anyway). If your engines quit you can't use the extra length behind you...Besides Baa don't charge by the foot, so get your monies worth..
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As far as i'm aware ALL Air Europa oprations from SOU are now operated by 737-400's.
800 series aircraft used to operate some routes, but these aircraft could never operate fully loaded and as far as i'm aware about 25% of seats were never put on sale due to the fact the aircraft would never get off the ground. Well, it was either that or sell every seat and don't take any luggage.
Some routes operated by various other operators still have the need for a tech stop enroute to some spanish destinations. I believe Nantes was a favourite stopping off point. I'd be very surprised if this requirement was ever mentioned to the punters when booking their hols.
800 series aircraft used to operate some routes, but these aircraft could never operate fully loaded and as far as i'm aware about 25% of seats were never put on sale due to the fact the aircraft would never get off the ground. Well, it was either that or sell every seat and don't take any luggage.
Some routes operated by various other operators still have the need for a tech stop enroute to some spanish destinations. I believe Nantes was a favourite stopping off point. I'd be very surprised if this requirement was ever mentioned to the punters when booking their hols.
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Thanks for that Exel. I suppose Britannia's 757 flight to Palma doesn't operate fully loaded then! Why can't BAA just extend that runway! It would make life so much easier! Get on with it NOW!
....presumably because of the Motorway right at one end and the railway workshops right at the other.
If extending the Rwy at SOU was easy, I'm sure BAA would have already done it when they spent a lot of money on the Airport in the mid/late '90's
If extending the Rwy at SOU was easy, I'm sure BAA would have already done it when they spent a lot of money on the Airport in the mid/late '90's
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Its a real shame with the location of the airport. I believe there is so much potential, and the fact that one million people live within an hours makes it a favourite place for people to fly from. Unfortunately where there is no room for extending the runway, this may never happen. I live 10mins from there, and the airport itself is surrounded by houses etc. I just hope that in years to come, there may be some improvement occuring
Its a real shame with the location of the airport. I believe there is so much potential, and the fact that one million people live within an hours makes it a favourite place for people to fly from. Unfortunately where there is no room for extending the runway, this may never happen. I live 10mins from there, and the airport itself is surrounded by houses etc. I just hope that in years to come, there may be some improvement occuring
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Sadly SOU (nee Atlantic air Park) will never be more than a regional / business airport. But at least a profitable one.
It was just put in the wrong place to start with. Perhaps if it was more east/west, across the road and into the park to the west (not the marshes to the east) it could have been as busy as LGW by now.
Only other option would be to put the M27 in a tunnel between J5 & J7 (for those not local, there is NO J6 for some reason) and use that for a main runway. We own some farm land next to J7 and would be happy to build a terminal or some hangars for a couple hundred Łk.
It was just put in the wrong place to start with. Perhaps if it was more east/west, across the road and into the park to the west (not the marshes to the east) it could have been as busy as LGW by now.
Only other option would be to put the M27 in a tunnel between J5 & J7 (for those not local, there is NO J6 for some reason) and use that for a main runway. We own some farm land next to J7 and would be happy to build a terminal or some hangars for a couple hundred Łk.
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I think you may find that the wonderfully overpowered 757, would treat the runway at SOU with contempt and pull a full load off the runway on it's way to PMI. It's not that short. Vagar in the Faroes is short (1250m).
Runway length is, of course, relevant to any airfield, depending on the types that operate there and the destinations served. You could land a Jumbo at SOU, and take-off again. But the load capability would be a bit thin. I would also be surprised if a 737-400 would have to stop anywhere if only going to PMI, as it has an excellent power to weight ratio, which is the be all and end all off shorter runways.
Runway length is, of course, relevant to any airfield, depending on the types that operate there and the destinations served. You could land a Jumbo at SOU, and take-off again. But the load capability would be a bit thin. I would also be surprised if a 737-400 would have to stop anywhere if only going to PMI, as it has an excellent power to weight ratio, which is the be all and end all off shorter runways.
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I am sure that I read on here once that the charter jets operated with empty seats to facilitate the short runway and that the BAA paid for these empties?
BAA shareholders would be upset to hear of this I am sure! Coss subsidies, Gwyneth will be after em again!
BAA shareholders would be upset to hear of this I am sure! Coss subsidies, Gwyneth will be after em again!
BY have operated all their 757 routes ex SOU with full loads, no restrictions.
Air Europa also operated full loads on the -800 last year.
Spanair A320 operated full loads, but had an optional tech stop built in I think.
Spanair MD83 had a restricted load ex SOU and always used all the runway before rocketing upwards.
The FlyBe 146 tech stops at BOH were due to Temps of around 33c at SOU which is way above the norm and as such understandable.
Hope this helps the knockers re read their ops manuals and time tables to stop posting inaccurate nonsense.
Air Europa also operated full loads on the -800 last year.
Spanair A320 operated full loads, but had an optional tech stop built in I think.
Spanair MD83 had a restricted load ex SOU and always used all the runway before rocketing upwards.
The FlyBe 146 tech stops at BOH were due to Temps of around 33c at SOU which is way above the norm and as such understandable.
Hope this helps the knockers re read their ops manuals and time tables to stop posting inaccurate nonsense.
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BAA currently yield 3.8%, which in the aviation market is a pretty good return. Their shareholders are probably satisfied.
I would imagine that airlines who use any airport in the country whether it's BAA owned or not, pay the costs required. What is this so called 'seat subsidy'? Clearly it is not needed, (see comments by surely not).
Unfortunately, remarks made about the capabilities of aircraft to lift a payload from an airfield are usually made by people who do not have much of a clue about aircraft performance. I'm sure that Thomson, My Travel, First Choice, Airtours or any of the other holiday companies, only operate to make a profit. If they fill up their aircraft, then presumably, they will make one. If not, then there's not much point in doing the route. There are no prizes for losing money.
I would imagine that airlines who use any airport in the country whether it's BAA owned or not, pay the costs required. What is this so called 'seat subsidy'? Clearly it is not needed, (see comments by surely not).
Unfortunately, remarks made about the capabilities of aircraft to lift a payload from an airfield are usually made by people who do not have much of a clue about aircraft performance. I'm sure that Thomson, My Travel, First Choice, Airtours or any of the other holiday companies, only operate to make a profit. If they fill up their aircraft, then presumably, they will make one. If not, then there's not much point in doing the route. There are no prizes for losing money.