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Old 13th Jul 2022, 18:48
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"I hope LHR plan to compensate carriers accordingly."

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Old 13th Jul 2022, 19:00
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Flights are still planned to operate although LHR is also to impose mandatory cancellations targetted by terminal and time slots which they will apparently inform the airlines of today
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Old 23rd Jul 2022, 00:14
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Source of airframes....

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Old 24th Jul 2022, 23:13
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G-JECL droned overhead Alton yesterday at 1325 heading for Exeter.
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Old 25th Jul 2022, 08:24
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
G-JECL droned overhead Alton yesterday at 1325 heading for Exeter.
This is one of the next airframes earmarked for a "return" to service along with FLBB.
2 aircraft are also apparently soon to be registered, previously in service with LOT
More routes starting later this week, namely BHX to GLA and EDI
Frequency increases also now in effect on some other routes, notably BHD to GLA (up to 3 daily) and LBA (up to 4)
The airline also made its return to SOU over the weekend, with flights to and from BHD and onwards to AVN and TLN
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Old 25th Jul 2022, 08:30
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Originally Posted by Wycombe
The airline also made its return to SOU over the weekend, with flights to and from BHD and onwards to AVN and TLN
Be careful, in referring to the airline making "its return" you are borderline suggesting that Mk.2 is not a new business, but a reincarnation of the old one!! Using the term "brand" - one that I detest - is probably more accurate.
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Old 25th Jul 2022, 11:42
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
Be careful, in referring to the airline making "its return" you are borderline suggesting that Mk.2 is not a new business, but a reincarnation of the old one!! Using the term "brand" - one that I detest - is probably more accurate.
Fully aware of the situation but bearing in mind that so far all of the Dashes that have entered service with BEE Mk2 are from BEE Mk1 (a situation that looks like it's going to change soon) and that they have the same ICAO code and callsign, those who are less up to speed on the details could be forgiven for thinking otherwise
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 20:42
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News leaking out on social media that a SOU base is to be confirmed (not sure on timing, but suspect for W22)
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 20:44
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Originally Posted by Wycombe
News leaking out on social media that a SOU base is to be confirmed (not sure on timing, but suspect for W22)
Was that not posted by "SeanM" on Twitter a few months ago?
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 22:58
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Originally Posted by southamptonavgeek
Was that not posted by "SeanM" on Twitter a few months ago?
He posted on 12th June...."UNCONFIRMED: Are Flybe looking at launching a Southampton base? Looking at slots - they seem interested in adding Edinburgh, Glasgow, Jersey, Manchester and Newcastle in Winter 2022 (in addition to keeping Belfast City), and who knows what else. Of course, this is very early days"

So looks like that was speculation based on slot applications?
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 23:33
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Originally Posted by Wycombe
He posted on 12th June...."UNCONFIRMED: Are Flybe looking at launching a Southampton base? Looking at slots - they seem interested in adding Edinburgh, Glasgow, Jersey, Manchester and Newcastle in Winter 2022 (in addition to keeping Belfast City), and who knows what else. Of course, this is very early days"

So looks like that was speculation based on slot applications?
Bit conflicted by this. T3 absolutely need to be pushed out of the airport with the way they just cancel flights when they want and I guess LM do charge a lot using there little 145s but wouldnít want SOU becoming completely dominated by BE again. Not healthy for an airport to be so reliant on one airline.
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Old 28th Jul 2022, 08:43
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I canít think SOU management will let that concentration happen again, now having a pretty balanced airline customer group including KLM, BA CityFlyer, Aer Lingus by Emerald, Loganair, Aurigny and Blue Islands. They just need a bit more leisure capacity, Air France in some shape and then Aer Lingus Regional on DUB as well as BHD.

Eastern do seem to have sealed their own fate at SOU with things like suspending Manchester for two months (during rail strikes and Heathrow disruption too) suggesting that theyíre less than serious.

Chucking Flybe into the middle of this mix and them competing with almost everyone else - KLM, Loganair, Emerald, Blue Islands and so - will just cause no end of mess and potentially some long term damage. WeĎbe all seen routes go from one carrier to two and then to none.



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Old 28th Jul 2022, 08:45
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I can’t think SOU management will let that concentration happen again,
And how would SOU management stop it happening?
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Old 29th Jul 2022, 10:01
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Appears BHD-MAN has been removed from sale from mid Aug.
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Old 29th Jul 2022, 10:13
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Originally Posted by BA318
Appears BHD-MAN has been removed from sale from mid Aug.
Good old Twitter! Well that didnít last long. Whats next for the chop
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Old 29th Jul 2022, 10:18
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
And how would SOU management stop it happening?
Agree, looking at the near empty apron a week ago if someone comes along and indicates that they are going to base 2, 3 or more aircraft they are going to welcome them with open arms, together with the start up incentive deals.
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Old 29th Jul 2022, 10:27
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Any airport is able to use commercial terms - discounts from the published fees - to influence airline route behaviour to a greater or lesser extent. Iíd heard a few airports were taking a cautious approach to Flybe. Iím sure if they roll up at SOU wanting to fly to Paris, La Rochelle and maybe even Dublin and Manchester then a deal would be on the table. Amsterdam, Jersey, Belfast, Edinburgh, Glasgow ? Not so sure.
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Old 29th Jul 2022, 10:37
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SOU donít care which airline operates what route, if the deal is right for them they will welcome whomever with open arms, fact!
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Old 29th Jul 2022, 10:45
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SOU as a profit-seeking company should care very much about ensuring no single airline customer is too dominant in their business, unless SOU receives very good terms from that customer (eg airline pays full published price for SOU's services with fees paid for several months up front in a deposit account). SOU learned the hard way in the last 2 years why this is important
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Old 29th Jul 2022, 10:48
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
SOU as a profit-seeking company should care very much about ensuring no single airline customer is too dominant in their business, unless SOU receives very good terms from that customer (eg airline pays full published price for SOU's services with fees paid for several months up front in a deposit account). SOU learned the hard way in the last 2 years why this is important
But how do they control that without falling foul of anti-competition rules?
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