UK Green List - extra routes ?
They are going to put them on the market at market prices - it's up to you if you want to pay them
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If you don’t have a booking and you are rebooking then yes. If you booked a year in advance and then it went up then no.
example: If I have a BA voucher for a £200 flight from June 2020. It is worth £200. If I book the same flight for June 2021 and it now costs £400 I need to add the extra £200.
example: If I have a BA voucher for a £200 flight from June 2020. It is worth £200. If I book the same flight for June 2021 and it now costs £400 I need to add the extra £200.
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If an airline cancels your flight, subsequently reinstates a flight on the same route on the same day, and then demands more money before they will transfer your booking, I'd suggest Trading Standards would be very interested.
If an airline cancels your flight, subsequently reinstates a flight on the same route on the same day, and then demands more money before they will transfer your booking, I'd suggest Trading Standards would be very interested.
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If you kept your booking you would be put on the new fight free of charge.
If you opted to cancel a ticket and take a refund or a voucher then their obligation to provide care for that booking ends and your money is either returned or you hold the value of the ticket as a voucher you then exchange for whatever one of their services you wish...up to the value of the voucher. If you opted for a new flight and they reinstate the original one then you could ask to be moved back and they may do as a gesture of goodwill, but they are under no obligation to as you accepted the new flights when offered.
Trading standards won't have anything to say as nothing wrong would have happened.
If you opted to cancel a ticket and take a refund or a voucher then their obligation to provide care for that booking ends and your money is either returned or you hold the value of the ticket as a voucher you then exchange for whatever one of their services you wish...up to the value of the voucher. If you opted for a new flight and they reinstate the original one then you could ask to be moved back and they may do as a gesture of goodwill, but they are under no obligation to as you accepted the new flights when offered.
Trading standards won't have anything to say as nothing wrong would have happened.
There is very little logic here... again. France is not even considered a high incidence area despite the SA variant being very prevalent and the French not doing enough genomic testing. The Indian variant is also in Germany already.
The only countries listed as "area of a variant of concern" are: Botswana, Brazil, Swaziland, India, Lesotho, Malawi, Mozambique, Nepal, South Africa, UK, Zambia, Zimbabwe.
Not politically motivated... hmm?
The rest of South America is treated as a high incidence area or risk area as is a lot of the Middle East and the northern half of Africa.
The only countries listed as "area of a variant of concern" are: Botswana, Brazil, Swaziland, India, Lesotho, Malawi, Mozambique, Nepal, South Africa, UK, Zambia, Zimbabwe.
Not politically motivated... hmm?
The rest of South America is treated as a high incidence area or risk area as is a lot of the Middle East and the northern half of Africa.
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UK - Germany saw 14.5 million air passengers in 2019, or about 5.5 % of all the UK's international air travellers. This is an important market for airlines and airports in the UK; its effective suspension is not a good thing for aviation companies
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Covid variants are throughout Germany, Europe and the world.
The UK is being unfairly penalised for being extremely efficient at finding these variants at an early stage - UK genome research leads the world.
But of course, certain parts of Europe then call these variants ‘The Kent Variant’ etc.
Very disingenuous of Germany and they need to get their heads out of the sand.
Meanwhile, they allow German tourists to continue to fly on holiday to Spain, Greece, Portugal etc.
The UK is being unfairly penalised for being extremely efficient at finding these variants at an early stage - UK genome research leads the world.
But of course, certain parts of Europe then call these variants ‘The Kent Variant’ etc.
Very disingenuous of Germany and they need to get their heads out of the sand.
Meanwhile, they allow German tourists to continue to fly on holiday to Spain, Greece, Portugal etc.
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It is a bizarre move. The UK now has one of the strictest entry regimes in Europe, one of the lowest case rates and highest vaccination rates.
Germany allows arrivals from far more countries which are liable to pose a greater risk than Brits. But I partly blame the UK Gov putting out scare stories before the facts are known. It now says the Indian variant is more transmissible and it largely seems the vaccine works against it. But they briefed for weeks beforehand that it was a disaster, would overrun the system and put us back where we started purely to back their domestic message. No surprise when other countries follow.
Germany allows arrivals from far more countries which are liable to pose a greater risk than Brits. But I partly blame the UK Gov putting out scare stories before the facts are known. It now says the Indian variant is more transmissible and it largely seems the vaccine works against it. But they briefed for weeks beforehand that it was a disaster, would overrun the system and put us back where we started purely to back their domestic message. No surprise when other countries follow.
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Since 07 May when the UK Govt announced Portugal was on the green list, the 7-day rolling average number of Covid cases in Portugal has steadily increased and is now 25 % higher after just 2 weeks
I imagine there will be some sort of tolerance built into the UK system to prevent knee-jerk reactions by the UK Govt... but if this steady increase continues, Portugal's status might move at some point (late June or early July ?) from green to flashing green, or Portugal might need to be stricter on rules in some way.
The Alentejo, Algarve, and especially both the Azores and Madeira, seem to be having the most problems with an increasing Covid rate in their respective regions. Lisbon and places further to the north seem to have much better control
One wonders how the increase in infection from an influx of tourists as potential bringers and carriers of the virus will weigh against increasing levels of vaccination
I imagine there will be some sort of tolerance built into the UK system to prevent knee-jerk reactions by the UK Govt... but if this steady increase continues, Portugal's status might move at some point (late June or early July ?) from green to flashing green, or Portugal might need to be stricter on rules in some way.
The Alentejo, Algarve, and especially both the Azores and Madeira, seem to be having the most problems with an increasing Covid rate in their respective regions. Lisbon and places further to the north seem to have much better control
One wonders how the increase in infection from an influx of tourists as potential bringers and carriers of the virus will weigh against increasing levels of vaccination
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I have been tracking the Covid rate in Madeira, and as you say it’s been ticking up. The 7 day rate per 100,000 is now over 50 - which is worrying.
I do think there’s a chance it could become Amber.
I do think there’s a chance it could become Amber.
I suspect that if any country, especially in the next 4-8 weeks comes off the green list, that’ll be it for this summer. It’ll kill any glowing ember of consumer confidence.
"sThe 7 day rate per 100,000 is now over 50 - which is worrying."
we need to move away from focusing on cases and look at hospitalisations - as vaccination spreads CV19 will be just like the 'flu - a lot of people may get it but it won't threaten their lives
we need to move away from focusing on cases and look at hospitalisations - as vaccination spreads CV19 will be just like the 'flu - a lot of people may get it but it won't threaten their lives
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Ireland ‘to lift 14-day quarantine for UK holidaymakers’
https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...-holidaymakers
https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...-holidaymakers
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France imposes 10 day quarantine for arrivals from the UK
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b1854288.html
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/france-will-impose-self-isolation-people-coming-uk-2021-05-26/
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b1854288.html
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/france-will-impose-self-isolation-people-coming-uk-2021-05-26/