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The fleet isn’t owned by Aer Lingus. They are leased from a few different places. Nordic Aviation Capital, Propius (which is connected to Stobart) and GECAS.
Isn’t an EU AOC required for the ROI routes? While a U.K. one is required for the Belfast routes.
There are plenty of carriers able to do either. The question is price and what EI’s plan actually is.
It may be easier to just use an A320 on limited frequencies (say 2-3 weekly rather than per day). Not like the market is booming at the moment.
Isn’t an EU AOC required for the ROI routes? While a U.K. one is required for the Belfast routes.
There are plenty of carriers able to do either. The question is price and what EI’s plan actually is.
It may be easier to just use an A320 on limited frequencies (say 2-3 weekly rather than per day). Not like the market is booming at the moment.
An A320 flying 3x weekly seems excessively large for what are largely regional routes. In such a scenario, I think many pax would prefer to travel from a major airport on the desired day (or by land within Ireland) instead of a different day using their local airport
If these routes are to survive, it's with a prop / small jet.... or not at all
If these routes are to survive, it's with a prop / small jet.... or not at all
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I wouldn’t be surprised to see Aer Lingus put an A320 perhaps daily on the big routes like BHD to MAN, BHX and EDI as a stop gap until Emerald is up and running, which I would also expect to be earlier than the original plan. For the rest like LBA, EMA and GLA then it will be over to Loganair, Eastern and others?
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I’m aware of that but in the short term to fill gaps it might be needed. Some of the routes they were serving were not tiny - Manchester, Birmingham etc and some were served several times a day by ATR72 so one A320 a day could easily cover that sort of number. Plus if Ireland opens up a bit demand may increase given the common travel area is green listed.
The example is after the Flybe collapse BA put a A319 on LHR-NQY which was previously 3/4 Q400 a day.
I’m aware of that but in the short term to fill gaps it might be needed. Some of the routes they were serving were not tiny - Manchester, Birmingham etc and some were served several times a day by ATR72 so one A320 a day could easily cover that sort of number. Plus if Ireland opens up a bit demand may increase given the common travel area is green listed.
The example is after the Flybe collapse BA put a A319 on LHR-NQY which was previously 3/4 Q400 a day.
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“Aer Lingus will operate the Dublin/Edinburgh, Dublin/Manchester, Belfast City/Manchester, Belfast City/Birmingham and Belfast City/Edinburgh routes.
BA City Flyer will operate the Belfast City/Exeter route and the Belfast City/Leeds Bradford route.
Plans for the Dublin/Kerry and Dublin/Donegal Public Service Obligation routes are still being worked out.
Customers due to travel on the Belfast City/East Midlands, Dublin/Glasgow and Dublin/Newquay routes are being offered alternative flights”
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/202...5-stobart-air/
BA City Flyer will operate the Belfast City/Exeter route and the Belfast City/Leeds Bradford route.
Plans for the Dublin/Kerry and Dublin/Donegal Public Service Obligation routes are still being worked out.
Customers due to travel on the Belfast City/East Midlands, Dublin/Glasgow and Dublin/Newquay routes are being offered alternative flights”
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/202...5-stobart-air/
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Or anything at all from Cork. Hello, we still want travel from down here when we can!
With this announcement and Cork airport deciding that a good time to re-lay the runway is just as aviation starts again, despite it being practically dormant for a year; I worry that the temporary suspension of operations for EI at Cork may become more permanent.
With this announcement and Cork airport deciding that a good time to re-lay the runway is just as aviation starts again, despite it being practically dormant for a year; I worry that the temporary suspension of operations for EI at Cork may become more permanent.
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EI-FSK & EI-GEV, according to Jethro's
Would it be Stobart Air crew(s) that would fly these sectors or would the lessor have to find alternative crewing options in order to get the aircraft back?
Would it be Stobart Air crew(s) that would fly these sectors or would the lessor have to find alternative crewing options in order to get the aircraft back?
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Absolutely. .I recall the classic 737s about 4 times daily on DUB-GLA with sometimes the BAC 1.11on the service...with occasional B707. And more recently Airbus 320s on the route. Indeed different times....🤭
Absolutely. .I recall the classic 737s about 4 times daily on DUB-GLA with sometimes the BAC 1.11on the service...with occasional B707. And more recently Airbus 320s on the route. Indeed different times....🤭
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The announcement there only covers the routes which are currently operating as of this week as a matter of urgency. This is mainly to cover existing bookings whilst also allowing for some level of repatriation. What happens with the rest of the network will be sorted in due course. I'd imagine the next priority will be to see CFN/KIR back operating and then the group will go from there.
The announcement there only covers the routes which are currently operating as of this week as a matter of urgency. This is mainly to cover existing bookings whilst also allowing for some level of repatriation. What happens with the rest of the network will be sorted in due course. I'd imagine the next priority will be to see CFN/KIR back operating and then the group will go from there.
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Parent of collapsed Stobart Air trying to place ATR fleet with other operators Irish regional carrier Stobart Air’s parent company, Esken, is attempting to redeploy its ATR turboprop fleet with other operators following the airline’s collapse.
https://www.flightglobal.com/airline...144138.article
Esken is seeking to sub-lease their 8 ATR 72-600's with with alternative operator, not sure if an UK Airline would be instrested?
https://www.flightglobal.com/airline...144138.article
Esken is seeking to sub-lease their 8 ATR 72-600's with with alternative operator, not sure if an UK Airline would be instrested?