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Folks, a question for those who know...does Virgin's IFE (A330 to Orlando) allow you to plug in a USB bluetooth dongle for a headset? I have a good headset for work, but needs to be driven off bluetooth. I suspect the USB ports are just power ports, rather than outputs for the IFE, but can't confirm from the website. Thanks!
Looks like a Seoul link could be one step closer after the recent announcement that the UK authorities have finally agreed to the Korean Air/Asiana merger. This announcement now leaves the EU and USA to come to their own conclusion before the merger finally gets the final go-ahead.
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with Bangalore next on the cards, I was interested to think of some of the routes VS have done and then dropped?
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If a route does not fit with Delta's plans? They the chances of it starting must be minimal.
The LHR-JNB route is a cash cow. Most nights, BA has a 777 + 380 and, some nights, double 380. VS? Just a 789 and CPT only in the southern summer.
The LHR-JNB route is a cash cow. Most nights, BA has a 777 + 380 and, some nights, double 380. VS? Just a 789 and CPT only in the southern summer.
BA and SAA both had double 747's at that time.
I also never knew why a 747-400 was not a permanent feature on it too -
The A340-300 was far from ideal with the HGW's out of JNB (and also from CPT) which meant lucrative Cargo was left off, or could not even be booked.
I vaguely recall JNB did go double daily then Covid killed it off >??
I know why CPT was stop-start over the years - This was largely in part due to the corruption of 'local' ticket selling agents and Virgin unable to get their money in.
Aberdeen (Virgin Red)
Accra
Athens
Austin (ends 07 January 2024)
Belfast International
Cancun
Chicago
Detroit
Dubai (resumes 28 October 2023)
Dublin
Glasgow
Havana
Hong Kong
Islamabad (ends 11 July 2023)
Kingston
Lahore
London Gatwick
Luton
Maastricht
Mauritius
Moscow (fuel stop)
Nairobi
Newark
Port Harcourt (Virgin Nigeria)
Sydney
Tobago
Tokyo Narita
Toronto
Vancouver
Varadero
VS have often dropped routes and then restarted them. I wonder if one or two of the dropped destinations that I have listed above will ever return to the airlines route network.
Of note, I have re-edited the list to include the missing destinations of Chicago, Havana and Varadero.
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I can assure you putting their clients onto BA shuttles is NOT optimal and certainly not in the greater interests of the company.
BTW Little Red services to Manchester weren’t a part of the BMi remedial packages; more rather were slot sitting a few own and Delta slots at the time.
It was never a commercially viable proposition utilising Aer Lingus either, especially when it became clear the slots weren’t going to be allowed to be transferred to anything other than alternative EU/UK destinations and as designated in the agreement even beyond the six season use restriction period.
Effectively they became useless so Virgin Red gave up cut their mounting loses and handed them back early. (only Aer Lingus an IAG Group company made any money out of that venture and ultimately straight back into the same pot as if BA had retained them
)Evidence these remedial slots really aren’t worth the hassle with all the risk caveats and restrictions can clearly be sighted at the FAILURE of Flybe not once but twice, and in both cases the liquidator’s inability to gain any value out of them other than to hand them straight back to BA .
BA are under no obligation to provide workable and reliable slot pairs to a competitor. It’s pretty much a stitch up .
Loganair may have an advantage using the slots to the highlands and Dundee because they retain a long standing working relationship and interline agreement with BA that others haven’t had.
There is however a question; are Loganair really introducing the completion that these remedial slots releases were supposed to deliver - I am not sure to be honest.
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One slight correction to the list of former routes above, Virgin never flew to Moscow. They did bid for the route authority but lost to bmi, and then easyJet (much to the annoyance of SRB).
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2 more 747's were soon added obtained from SQ 747-212B's with PW -7Q engines that could do the flight non-stop so the SVO stop could be dropped. G-TKYO and G-VRGN
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they also stopped/re started Chicago a few times
also Man-UVF
Was crew with VS 2004-2016 so I operated a lot of these routes, I think the plan was to return to Tokyo, but not Narita the other one.
also Man-UVF
Was crew with VS 2004-2016 so I operated a lot of these routes, I think the plan was to return to Tokyo, but not Narita the other one.
I had completely overlooked Chicago, Havana and Varadero.
I am going to edit the list to include those three destinations.
Moscow as already stated by others was a fuel stop during the early day's of LGW-Tokyo-Narita.
I am going to edit the list to include those three destinations.
Moscow as already stated by others was a fuel stop during the early day's of LGW-Tokyo-Narita.
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