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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 07:27
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There isn't one. The plan is for horizontal take off using conventional aircraft with the load launched somewhere over the sea.
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 20:17
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"Our ambition is for Scotland to be Europe’s leading space nation and to have a £4 billion [US $5.5 billion] share of the global space market by 2030, whilst developing launch capability – both vertical and horizontal – to serve small satellite producers."
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Vertical launch capability is planned to be in the far north, near Durness and Tongue on the A’Mhòine peninsula.
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Old 21st Dec 2021, 14:58
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Sale process ends with no sale:

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...gBIt2aO4TnhHkg
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Old 21st Dec 2021, 15:57
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What a farce… what are the now two ‘failed’ bidders not telling us? (or what is Scot Gov not telling us), will come out in the wash sooner or later.
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
What a farce… what are the now two ‘failed’ bidders not telling us? (or what is Scot Gov not telling us), will come out in the wash sooner or later.
At a guess, who pays for any main runway reconstruction might be the stumbling block.
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Old 21st Dec 2021, 17:02
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Bought for a quid, millions lost, failed to return to private ownership as intended umpteen years later.

Comical
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And Scottish Conservative MSP Graham Simpson added that "the only thing flying out of Prestwick is taxpayers' money".



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Old 22nd Dec 2021, 08:30
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And Scottish Conservative MSP Graham Simpson added that "the only thing flying out of Prestwick is taxpayers' money".
Well he’s not wrong! Another SNP transport blunder to add to the list!
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Old 22nd Dec 2021, 19:58
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Prestwick airport made a profit after tax of £12.8 million
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ins...e-25755511.amp



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Well he’s not wrong! Another SNP transport blunder to add to the list!
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Old 23rd Dec 2021, 00:27
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Originally Posted by tictack67
Prestwick airport made a profit after tax of £12.8 million
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ins...e-25755511.amp
I think I would rather have PIK in government hands.
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Old 23rd Dec 2021, 06:46
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Originally Posted by SealinkBF
I think I would rather have PIK in government hands.
I agree. A private sector owner may have revived Infratil's plans to redevelop part of 03/21 for housing. Those plans were rebuffed by South Ayrshire Council. I couldn't see the Scottish Government trying to revive such a controversial plan against SAC's position, but a new private owner may not have had such qualms.
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Old 23rd Dec 2021, 09:15
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Originally Posted by tictack67
Prestwick airport made a profit after tax of £12.8 million
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ins...e-25755511.amp
The article says "profit after tax for the year was £12.8m, which includes technical accounting for a non-cash revaluation of assets,"

In other words, not a real profit.
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Originally Posted by Hipennine
The article says "profit after tax for the year was £12.8m, which includes technical accounting for a non-cash revaluation of assets,"

In other words, not a real profit.
The full accounts (https://www.glasgowprestwick.com/wp-...nal-signed.pdf) have an 'Operating Profit before Exceptional Items' of £0.5m.
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Old 23rd Dec 2021, 13:54
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Originally Posted by Link Kilo
I agree. A private sector owner may have revived Infratil's plans to redevelop part of 03/21 for housing. Those plans were rebuffed by South Ayrshire Council. I couldn't see the Scottish Government trying to revive such a controversial plan against SAC's position, but a new private owner may not have had such qualms.
Nothing new in the world, BAA sold the land to a subsidiary in the 1980s and then had to re-open 1/3 of it for the Flying College. This truncated length meant the airport ended up being effectively closed for days on the trot to most traffic due to winter crosswinds as the main runway isn't into the prevailing wind for extended periods. It was re-opened to full length after BAA sold it off and was instrumental in keeping the lights on. Flog it off again and traffic will just go elsewhere in winter.
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 22:32
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I found this wondrous piece of colour film from another world, another time, on the book-of-face.....
https://movingimage.nls.uk/film/4650
From 15:20 it's colour footage of Prestwick in 1964 with the last days of Orangefield and the opening of the new terminal building. Stunning to see the original layout with SAS, Air Canada and Scottish Express all in situ, strange BOAC never got a look in until a B707 at the end. It got me thinking, with the British state having spent a massive amount of money on the new terminal (at the same time Glasgow City Council was building out Abbotsinch) was there ever a published rationale for NOT building a railway halt? The main Glasgow to Ayr line runs outside the then new terminal and no station was ever built until private ownership in 1994, some three decades later. Was the government really so poor at joined up thinking or was it local politics? It was a no brainer my dad used to complain about at every opportunity, but what on earth was the actual reason for dropping the ball?

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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 23:03
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Rail links??

Inverness, Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Prestwick. Every one of these airports have their origins as WW2 airbases and every one had a pre existing railway very nearby at the time they were built.
Maybe the lack of joined up thinking isn't a new thing or maybe there has been an anti railway conspiracy all along. I think we should be told...
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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 23:33
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Good point on ABZ / Dyce and EDI, less so Gilmour St which is a bit of a hike IMHO.
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Old 4th Jan 2022, 07:22
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Wonderful images of PIK. Pictures of the lounge reminded me of the days when lounges had chairs that passengers could sit on, rather than shopping malls designed to prevent passengers from remaining seated. The days when travel was a more enjoyable experience, if though a great deal more exclusive.
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Old 4th Jan 2022, 10:22
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Good point on ABZ / Dyce and EDI, less so Gilmour St which is a bit of a hike IMHO.
I thought he was talking about the railway line which ran from Paisley , through Babcocks and Buchanan Oil , to near Renfrew Ferry !
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