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Looking at flight radar today, POWW was operating a flight to Bologna but turned back over Belgium/Netherlands and POWN operated a flight later in the day. Did something happen?
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Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
What a total waste of money! I seriously hope the tax payer hasn’t had to pay for this stupidity.
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Why didn’t they use G-GBNI which was all white for TCS World? Pretty insane to paint over the UK scheme on G-XATW to then paint G-GBNI into the scheme instead.
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Completely correct. They're exactly the same standard, but XATW was used as the gov needed it sooner than GBNI was ready. The reg's are GBNI (Great Britain and Northern Ireland) and XATW (Around The World) for TCS and have always been planned as such. No extra money has been 'coughed up by the taxpayer' for the decal swap.
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Originally Posted by planedrive
Completely correct. They're exactly the same standard, but XATW was used as the gov needed it sooner than GBNI was ready. The reg's are GBNI (Great Britain and Northern Ireland) and XATW (Around The World) for TCS and have always been planned as such. No extra money has been 'coughed up by the taxpayer' for the decal swap.
Originally Posted by jonnyrobbo
Looking at flight radar today, POWW was operating a flight to Bologna but turned back over Belgium/Netherlands and POWN operated a flight later in the day. Did something happen?
POWW was operating a flight to Bologna but turned back over Belgium/Netherlands and POWN operated a flight later in the day.
There has been various discussion about which leisure airline will be leasing which of Titan's various aircraft during summer 2022
I note that Titan UK has a Maltese subsidiary, which includes an A321, 9H-ZTA, that seems to have been sitting on the ground in Singapore for the last 6 months. I think Titan Malta took control of the aircraft in August 2021 ago. I can understand that since the end of October 2021, there might not have been a lot of ACMI demand for the likes of Titan, but I'm puzzled why an airline based in UK/Europe would choose to store a single aircraft in Singapore, far from the home of Titan's likely customer base, and what is intended for the aircraft during the next 6 months. Titan Malta's A321 freighter, 9H-ZTB has been rather busy recently in comparison. Is 9H-ZTA destined to brought back from exile to fly northern Europeans to the beach ?
I note that Titan UK has a Maltese subsidiary, which includes an A321, 9H-ZTA, that seems to have been sitting on the ground in Singapore for the last 6 months. I think Titan Malta took control of the aircraft in August 2021 ago. I can understand that since the end of October 2021, there might not have been a lot of ACMI demand for the likes of Titan, but I'm puzzled why an airline based in UK/Europe would choose to store a single aircraft in Singapore, far from the home of Titan's likely customer base, and what is intended for the aircraft during the next 6 months. Titan Malta's A321 freighter, 9H-ZTB has been rather busy recently in comparison. Is 9H-ZTA destined to brought back from exile to fly northern Europeans to the beach ?
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I imagine it’s probably either in conversion or waiting for a slot to go in to be a freighter
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Originally Posted by pilotmike
Yes.
POWW was operating a flight to Bologna but turned back over Belgium/Netherlands and POWN operated a flight later in the day.
POWW was operating a flight to Bologna but turned back over Belgium/Netherlands and POWN operated a flight later in the day.
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
There has been various discussion about which leisure airline will be leasing which of Titan's various aircraft during summer 2022
I note that Titan UK has a Maltese subsidiary, which includes an A321, 9H-ZTA, that seems to have been sitting on the ground in Singapore for the last 6 months. I think Titan Malta took control of the aircraft in August 2021 ago. I can understand that since the end of October 2021, there might not have been a lot of ACMI demand for the likes of Titan, but I'm puzzled why an airline based in UK/Europe would choose to store a single aircraft in Singapore, far from the home of Titan's likely customer base, and what is intended for the aircraft during the next 6 months. Titan Malta's A321 freighter, 9H-ZTB has been rather busy recently in comparison. Is 9H-ZTA destined to brought back from exile to fly northern Europeans to the beach ?
I note that Titan UK has a Maltese subsidiary, which includes an A321, 9H-ZTA, that seems to have been sitting on the ground in Singapore for the last 6 months. I think Titan Malta took control of the aircraft in August 2021 ago. I can understand that since the end of October 2021, there might not have been a lot of ACMI demand for the likes of Titan, but I'm puzzled why an airline based in UK/Europe would choose to store a single aircraft in Singapore, far from the home of Titan's likely customer base, and what is intended for the aircraft during the next 6 months. Titan Malta's A321 freighter, 9H-ZTB has been rather busy recently in comparison. Is 9H-ZTA destined to brought back from exile to fly northern Europeans to the beach ?
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
Both 757s going to BA at Gatwick for the summer.
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Originally Posted by planedrive
Completely correct. They're exactly the same standard, but XATW was used as the gov needed it sooner than GBNI was ready. The reg's are GBNI (Great Britain and Northern Ireland) and XATW (Around The World) for TCS and have always been planned as such. No extra money has been 'coughed up by the taxpayer' for the decal swap.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
can you provide detailed evidence of that?
Other than a donation scenario and that’s corruption 101 !
I have no objection in principle to a state transport aircraft indeed I would support a fully funded aircraft with secure comms paid for and OWNED by the state . Properly tendered for with accountability and sustainability targets through the correct procurement processes !
You know the one Blair suggested and was roundly vilified for by the Tory press .
These aircraft smell ( metaphorically) somewhat just an opinion.
The F900s may be better value through
UK Govt puts out a request for a wet leased aircraft with a stipulation it must have a Union jack design. UK airlines submit bids at a higher price than for a normal wet lease. UK Govt then chooses lowest of submitted bids. Officially no donation involved... Titan just recoups the cost of a repaint through a higher lease payment over next couple of years. Where is the case for PC Plod ?
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
can you provide detailed evidence of that?
Other than a donation scenario and that’s corruption 101 !
I have no objection in principle to a state transport aircraft indeed I would support a fully funded aircraft with secure comms paid for and OWNED by the state . Properly tendered for with accountability and sustainability targets through the correct procurement processes !
You know the one Blair suggested and was roundly vilified by the Tory press .
These aircraft smell ( metaphorically) somewhat just an opinion.
The F900s may be better value through
Yes - I would expect that bids have been requested to fill a requirement. It would be up to Titan to decide how to fulfil it, and if the best way involves two a/c getting painted (or 'whatever'), that would be down to them. You seem to think otherwise?
