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Old 24th Apr 2022, 23:19
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G-POWW

Looking at flight radar today, POWW was operating a flight to Bologna but turned back over Belgium/Netherlands and POWN operated a flight later in the day. Did something happen?
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Old 25th Apr 2022, 04:25
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What a total waste of money! I seriously hope the tax payer hasnít had to pay for this stupidity.
I absolutely agree about it being a total waste of money, however it doesn't surprise me at all to see these kind of things happening given the crazy sums of money that have been spent/squandered over the past couple of years. Unfortunately, it will be us who have to foot the bill as that's how the Government gets it's income - via the taxpayer!
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Why didn’t they use G-GBNI which was all white for TCS World? Pretty insane to paint over the UK scheme on G-XATW to then paint G-GBNI into the scheme instead.
I've read elsewhere that it's all decals on these 2 321's (the UK Govt colour-schemes anyway). The Reg of GBNI suggests to me that that was always intended to be the Govt aircraft?
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It does sound if an aircraft was needed at short notice and I would agree stencils would be best
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Completely correct. They're exactly the same standard, but XATW was used as the gov needed it sooner than GBNI was ready. The reg's are GBNI (Great Britain and Northern Ireland) and XATW (Around The World) for TCS and have always been planned as such. No extra money has been 'coughed up by the taxpayer' for the decal swap.
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Completely correct. They're exactly the same standard, but XATW was used as the gov needed it sooner than GBNI was ready. The reg's are GBNI (Great Britain and Northern Ireland) and XATW (Around The World) for TCS and have always been planned as such. No extra money has been 'coughed up by the taxpayer' for the decal swap.
That'll not be pleasant reading for the lurking Remoners
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Originally Posted by jonnyrobbo View Post
Looking at flight radar today, POWW was operating a flight to Bologna but turned back over Belgium/Netherlands and POWN operated a flight later in the day. Did something happen?
Yes.

POWW was operating a flight to Bologna but turned back over Belgium/Netherlands and POWN operated a flight later in the day.
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 18:24
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There has been various discussion about which leisure airline will be leasing which of Titan's various aircraft during summer 2022
I note that Titan UK has a Maltese subsidiary, which includes an A321, 9H-ZTA, that seems to have been sitting on the ground in Singapore for the last 6 months. I think Titan Malta took control of the aircraft in August 2021 ago. I can understand that since the end of October 2021, there might not have been a lot of ACMI demand for the likes of Titan, but I'm puzzled why an airline based in UK/Europe would choose to store a single aircraft in Singapore, far from the home of Titan's likely customer base, and what is intended for the aircraft during the next 6 months. Titan Malta's A321 freighter, 9H-ZTB has been rather busy recently in comparison. Is 9H-ZTA destined to brought back from exile to fly northern Europeans to the beach ?
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I imagine itís probably either in conversion or waiting for a slot to go in to be a freighter
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Originally Posted by mmeteesside View Post
I imagine itís probably either in conversion or waiting for a slot to go in to be a freighter
Yes - there for freighter conversion
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Old 28th Apr 2022, 18:49
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Originally Posted by pilotmike View Post
Yes.

POWW was operating a flight to Bologna but turned back over Belgium/Netherlands and POWN operated a flight later in the day.
Do you know the reason why she turned back?
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
There has been various discussion about which leisure airline will be leasing which of Titan's various aircraft during summer 2022
I note that Titan UK has a Maltese subsidiary, which includes an A321, 9H-ZTA, that seems to have been sitting on the ground in Singapore for the last 6 months. I think Titan Malta took control of the aircraft in August 2021 ago. I can understand that since the end of October 2021, there might not have been a lot of ACMI demand for the likes of Titan, but I'm puzzled why an airline based in UK/Europe would choose to store a single aircraft in Singapore, far from the home of Titan's likely customer base, and what is intended for the aircraft during the next 6 months. Titan Malta's A321 freighter, 9H-ZTB has been rather busy recently in comparison. Is 9H-ZTA destined to brought back from exile to fly northern Europeans to the beach ?
There for freighter conversion
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Both 757s going to BA at Gatwick for the summer.
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Both 757s going to BA at Gatwick for the summer.
think this might change - seen other confirmation that one staying at STN to operate for someone else with Titan crew from end of May
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Originally Posted by planedrive View Post
Completely correct. They're exactly the same standard, but XATW was used as the gov needed it sooner than GBNI was ready. The reg's are GBNI (Great Britain and Northern Ireland) and XATW (Around The World) for TCS and have always been planned as such. No extra money has been 'coughed up by the taxpayer' for the decal swap.
can you provide detailed evidence of that because someone will HAVE been charged and certainly NOT Titan as a business !!!!!!
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certainly NOT Titan as a business !!!!!!
can you provide detailed evidence of that?
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can you provide detailed evidence of that?
I have no evidence either way however my business sense leads me to believe there is an invoice somewhere !

Other than a donation scenario and that’s corruption 101 !

I have no objection in principle to a state transport aircraft indeed I would support a fully funded aircraft with secure comms paid for and OWNED by the state . Properly tendered for with accountability and sustainability targets through the correct procurement processes !

You know the one Blair suggested and was roundly vilified for by the Tory press .

These aircraft smell ( metaphorically) somewhat just an opinion.

The F900s may be better value through


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UK Govt puts out a request for a wet leased aircraft with a stipulation it must have a Union jack design. UK airlines submit bids at a higher price than for a normal wet lease. UK Govt then chooses lowest of submitted bids. Officially no donation involved... Titan just recoups the cost of a repaint through a higher lease payment over next couple of years. Where is the case for PC Plod ?
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
can you provide detailed evidence of that?
I have no evidence either way however my business sense leads me to believe there is an invoice somewhere !

Other than a donation scenario and thatís corruption 101 !

I have no objection in principle to a state transport aircraft indeed I would support a fully funded aircraft with secure comms paid for and OWNED by the state . Properly tendered for with accountability and sustainability targets through the correct procurement processes !

You know the one Blair suggested and was roundly vilified by the Tory press .

These aircraft smell ( metaphorically) somewhat just an opinion.

The F900s may be better value through



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Yes - I would expect that bids have been requested to fill a requirement. It would be up to Titan to decide how to fulfil it, and if the best way involves two a/c getting painted (or 'whatever'), that would be down to them. You seem to think otherwise?
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