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TartinTon Loganair's schedule ops don't even break even. Even with expensive airfares, it's not like they're making a fortune, they get by and turn a profit when charters and cargo get thrown in. I believe it's a 3% margin.
They're so expensive because they fly prop aircraft on high frequency shedules to the Highlands and Islands and the regions, if they do too well on volume, Ryanair or easyJet swoop in and Loganair depart, but frequency falls to about one daily. Flybe had low fares and high costs and went bust twice. Loganair have high cost and high fares and are celebrating 60 years of (almost but not quiet, thank you British Regional Airlines) continuous operations.
They're so expensive because they fly prop aircraft on high frequency shedules to the Highlands and Islands and the regions, if they do too well on volume, Ryanair or easyJet swoop in and Loganair depart, but frequency falls to about one daily. Flybe had low fares and high costs and went bust twice. Loganair have high cost and high fares and are celebrating 60 years of (almost but not quiet, thank you British Regional Airlines) continuous operations.
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Oh dear, TartinTon. I don’t know what Loganair’s done to upset you but you do come across as bitter. Loganair has a business model that works - smaller aircraft, higher frequency and realistic fares. Flybe one and two had a business model that didn’t work. Relatively small aircraft with high costs (from an economics point of view, give me an ATR72 over a dash 8 400 any day) but trying to offer fares more appropriate for 737/320 type aircraft. Combine this with a spider’s web type network and what did you expect? Einstein allegedly defined insanity as doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result, which would seem to apply to Flybe v2 vs v1.
If you look back over this thread you will see that I have been totally consistent in my view that Flybe v2 was simply a slot scam. However it appears (IMHO) that the management was too inept even to carry that out successfully.
If you look back over this thread you will see that I have been totally consistent in my view that Flybe v2 was simply a slot scam. However it appears (IMHO) that the management was too inept even to carry that out successfully.
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Whoops. I thought I was posting in the Flybe thread so in fairness, in this thread you won’t find any claims from me that Flybe 2 was a slot scam but there’s plenty in the Flybe thread
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Why shouldn’t he brag. Flybe1 tried to fight them and he won. Then Flybe2 came along with all the talk about enough money to fly empty for two years etc and again his business is still going and made a profit. At least he shows some personality and his staff seem to like him.
Why shouldn’t he brag. Flybe1 tried to fight them and he won. Then Flybe2 came along with all the talk about enough money to fly empty for two years etc and again his business is still going and made a profit. At least he shows some personality and his staff seem to like him.
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In relation to Newquay, Loganair might not be as cheap as Flybe but when compared to the rail options they're very competitive. Cheaper and much quicker.
If you book for two months ahead they're £60 one way from Newquay to Manchester which seems fair.
If you book for two months ahead they're £60 one way from Newquay to Manchester which seems fair.
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Tim Jeans was interviewed on Monday morning by BBC4 wake up to business. He failed to mention the airline taking on the Manchester route. Talk about missing an open goal.
Loganair NQY-MAN starts today.
In other news, RYR will be flying NQY-EDI twice weekly from the first weekend in June.
This is in addition to the previously announced NQY to STN and DUB, both 3 weekly from the end of March.
In other news, RYR will be flying NQY-EDI twice weekly from the first weekend in June.
This is in addition to the previously announced NQY to STN and DUB, both 3 weekly from the end of March.
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That’s some uplift in operations from tomorrow. Four Ryanair flights, including Dublin, Stansted and Malaga for the first time plus Faro restarts, easyJet, back on Manchester and Loganair Edinburgh. Finally back to pre-Covid levels, even with the demise of flybe, 2.0
Be interesting to see how many takers there are for a 0600 departure from Manchester!
Be interesting to see how many takers there are for a 0600 departure from Manchester!
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A quick dummy booking shows 81 seats checked in or pre-booked for the morning so at this stage it’s unlikely many more will be added to that. And, it’s assuming everyone booked shows up.
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Wake up!
It’s getting lonely on this thread. So much good news in the last couple of months. Ryanair, Edinburgh in June and now the final starts of the summer this week. EasyJet, Glasgow; Edelweiss, Zürich and finally SAS Copenhagen. Imagine if this was the Teesside thread. The CAA stats for April show Newquay overtook Exeter for the first time in years. Am I alone in celebrating the return to pre-Covid traffic levels at an airport. That was closed this time two years ago?
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Cornish Simon who used to keep up with NQY developments appears to have moved on.
The comparative numbers of postings between the MME thread and this one is remarkable given the progress NQY is making post covid compared to MME.
The comparative numbers of postings between the MME thread and this one is remarkable given the progress NQY is making post covid compared to MME.
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Have to agree, NQY has done incredibly well in the past 18 months and this summer looks like boom time despite the fact we are no longer tied down to the dreaded staycation!! It's a great airport to fly to / from and I hope it continues to see more growth. A route from my local BHX would be nice but sadly not likely given Eastern on EMA
Go Newquay! 💪💪
Go Newquay! 💪💪
Maybe because the more 'interesting' recent developments at NQY have been covered on other threads - and the MME thread (and SEN, LTN, SOU, BOH, etc) covers topics relating to the airport other than just airlines services
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