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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 20:02
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I tend to agree in that the regional catchment is and always was more than enough covered by EMA, LBA and HUY - the latter particularly would probably be in a better position from a passenger point of view today if DSA had never come about - but what would be the economic impact if it now essentially ceased to exist as a passenger operation? Locally at least it would be catastrophic.
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 20:31
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Originally Posted by TimmyW View Post
I have to laugh that someone on here claimed DSA had turned down Ryanair in favour of wizz. Wonder if they'll be going cap in hand now?

Also, it seems the terminal work to enable the Wizz base was paid for by a loan from taxpayers money. Wonder if they'll be getting an explanation?

It's about time this white elephant closed for good. There is no need for an airport in Doncaster!!
It's shows how inept and uninformed you are, read the ACC minutes for details.
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 20:35
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Originally Posted by egcntristar View Post
It's shows how inept and uninformed you are, read the ACC minutes for details.
Link please.
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https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/...umber-24140321
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Link please.
Surely someone as well informed about DSA on social media as you, doesn’t need a link?

Remind us what an ACC is again…

Meanwhile here’s the stuff Timmy never mentions.

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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 21:38
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Originally Posted by FRatSTN View Post
I tend to agree in that the regional catchment is and always was more than enough covered by EMA, LBA and HUY - the latter particularly would probably be in a better position from a passenger point of view today if DSA had never come about - but what would be the economic impact if it now essentially ceased to exist as a passenger operation? Locally at least it would be catastrophic.
Not sure about the Catchment argument at any regional airport, availability, convenience and price matter most to the majority. How many people from Yorkshire are using LHR to get to the States at the moment? It’s not convenient but it’s available. Wizz have timetabled availability, convenience and price but have not delivered. Who would book with them unless they were either ignorant of their performance on the DSA sun routes or be prepared for a gamble 50/50 that they’ll actually go? If DSA’s commercial obligations in return for exclusivity are to not allow competitors on the same routes, then good luck to them in attracting another carrier for the sun routes - one hopefully that can offer regular availability, convenience and price, and put DSA on the map for the immediate Catchment area and maybe a little further afield.
I live in Doncaster and I’m flying from NCL for my next holiday 😃
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 21:38
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Originally Posted by jumpseater View Post
Surely someone as well informed about DSA on social media as you, doesn’t need a link?

Remind us what an ACC is again…

Meanwhile here’s the stuff Timmy never mentions.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc5I8bws...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
18 cargo flights a month (the current amount) is hardly enough to be excited about.

I asked a serious question, how can DSA possible grow (other than maybe another based TUI) in terms of passenger flights now?
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 21:38
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Looking at the article in the Donny Free Press, you get the impression it's the UK to the sun flights that are cancelled, not Wizz's core market to Eastern Europe. Perhaps going head to head with Jet2s core business was not great, especially as the Jet2 holiday product is highly regarded. It also says that the cancelling of the DSA flights will give it more resilience at other bases, this may well be the prime reason. Of course it's always easier to blame someone else, they must have a copy of the O'Leary playbook!
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 22:21
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Wizz must use the same spin doctors as Ryanair by blaming the airports for their own failings.
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 22:44
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Originally Posted by G-FORZ View Post
Not sure about the Catchment argument at any regional airport, availability, convenience and price matter most to the majority. How many people from Yorkshire are using LHR to get to the States at the moment? It’s not convenient but it’s available. Wizz have timetabled availability, convenience and price but have not delivered. Who would book with them unless they were either ignorant of their performance on the DSA sun routes or be prepared for a gamble 50/50 that they’ll actually go? If DSA’s commercial obligations in return for exclusivity are to not allow competitors on the same routes, then good luck to them in attracting another carrier for the sun routes - one hopefully that can offer regular availability, convenience and price, and put DSA on the map for the immediate Catchment area and maybe a little further afield.
I live in Doncaster and I’m flying from NCL for my next holiday 😃
I said the constant cancellations would end in tears and was shot down. Fact is, some of the sun routes were departing a quarter full. Whoever falt that is, it isn't sustainable

Unfortunately I don't see anyone coming in, even in the long term to pick up these routes.

All the eggs are in TUIs basket. And if they ever get itchy feet, then it's game over for the passenger side
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In three years, I'll confidently say there won't be another based carrier at DSA

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Old 4th Jun 2022, 09:13
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The fact is we don't know what has gone on beyond closed doors and won't know.

Perhaps Wizz demanded better service than Tui. Never going to happen.
Perhaps Wizz has just decided that they can better deploy the staff.

We only have a Wizz air press release which may or may not be partly true, not true or completely true.

Tui appears to be happy and doing well. While it's difficult to see where the next operator will come in, that's always the case until they arrive.

This market is very fluid and hard to predict

Not that I'll miss Wizz. I thought they were expensive if you needed to take anything with you, and am not a fan of their customer retention process.

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Old 4th Jun 2022, 12:26
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This will just have been financial data driven… bolster the other UK ops by trimming least profitable or lowest forward bookings. I don’t think theres any more to it than that.
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 12:40
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TimmyW You really seem to get off on the idea of an airport running into trouble. How sad you are!
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 12:42
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TimmyW You really seem to get off on the idea of an airport running into trouble. How sad you are!
It is called being realistic. I called this months ago.
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 12:45
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This is also a way and excuse for Wizzair to transfer crews to other places in times of shortages. For example, their Gatwick schedules are a shambles at the moment.
Their is obviously a market from Doncaster for sun routes as TUI has 4 aircraft based this summer. I think the doomsayers need to check facts.
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 12:50
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This is also a way and excuse for Wizzair to transfer crews to other places in times of shortages. For example, their Gatwick schedules are a shambles at the moment.
Their is obviously a market from Doncaster for sun routes as TUI has 4 aircraft based this summer. I think the doomsayers need to check facts.
For package holidays.

Scheduled services have never worked at DSA in 17 years of trying
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 13:05
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Scheduled services have never worked at DSA in 17 years of trying
So what have Wizz been operating for years?
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 13:08
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So what have Wizz been operating for years?
Half a dozen Eastern European routes.

I guess it worked out well for Ryanair, easyJet, flybe etc?

Wizz were the last throw of the dice.
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 13:13
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Originally Posted by TimmyW View Post
For package holidays.

Scheduled services have never worked at DSA in 17 years of trying
Even through TimmyW views at times are not very promising about DSA. The fact is he’s correct with his foresight about Wizzair and I have to agree with some of his other comments made in the past.
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Apparently Wizz only told Doncaster based staff yesterday of there plans,the reason stated “airport soon to close”(Source from Twitter).

Not good time to be in travel sector at the moment
Hopefully DSA will pull through this bitter blow.

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So apart from the TUI base, the long standing Wizz routes to Eastern Europe, regular widebody freight flights and miscellanious operators such as NPAS and 2Excel, the airport is doomed?
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