TUI airways-2
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
There is never a "based aircraft", it won'y stay in one base for the whole summer, or even a month!
They can be exchanged downroute where the crews will swop onto the other one, or they are just ferried (empty) where they might be needed.
There are various reasons why they keep changing, but the concept of a 1 airframe being based at any TUI airport has never been the truth and never will be.
They can be exchanged downroute where the crews will swop onto the other one, or they are just ferried (empty) where they might be needed.
There are various reasons why they keep changing, but the concept of a 1 airframe being based at any TUI airport has never been the truth and never will be.
months until it swapped last week. There is always going to be a swap with TUI but surely until a swap takes place the aircraft that leaves NCL
in the morning and returns in the evening is “based”. The dictionary may not help with a definition of based in this context! .
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: 0ft
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
There is never a "based aircraft", it won't stay in one base for the whole summer, or even a month!
They can be exchanged downroute where the crews will swop onto the other one, or they are just ferried (empty) where they might be needed.
There are various reasons why they keep changing, but the concept of a 1 airframe being based at any TUI airport has never been the truth and never will be.
They can be exchanged downroute where the crews will swop onto the other one, or they are just ferried (empty) where they might be needed.
There are various reasons why they keep changing, but the concept of a 1 airframe being based at any TUI airport has never been the truth and never will be.
The reasons they'd swap out is for, as I've stated, maintenance that cannot be performed a the base due facilities (Usually akin to a car service check) and maybe where they need to clear a defect but again would rather do it in a base that has facilities to in case of grounding.
I'm not that ofay with TUI fleet and where they are based, but when Jet2 had the 757 split fleet, AG/AC/AE were predominately MAN based with AK/AB/AJ been LBA based. AA/AD/AI/AH/AN would swap between both bases would AH would be seen more in LBA then MAN and AD the other way round. It was only really AA/AI that would flick properly between the two.
Last edited by LBAflyer22; 18th May 2022 at 17:10.
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Crewe
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just noted on our eTicket issued today return flight aircraft type on the 3 Jun now changed for the 4th time and now showing B757 (Privileged?? ) yet when you log onto my booking on the TUI site still showing A321 hence cant sort the pre booked extra leg seats etc. It took a few weeks for TUI to update last time which isn't great. Certainly a bit of juggling going on still. So maybe in answer to some previous queries on leased aircraft TUI for this summer, perhaps not having a A321 at Manchester?
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: LGW/UK
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
There usually is "based" aircraft at certain bases for all airlines (well it's pretty obvious for BA/Virgin).
The reasons they'd swap out is for, as I've stated, maintenance that cannot be performed a the base due facilities (Usually akin to a car service check) and maybe where they need to clear a defect but again would rather do it in a base that has facilities to in case of grounding.
I'm not that ofay with TUI fleet and where they are based, but when Jet2 had the 757 split fleet, AG/AC/AE were predominately MAN based with AK/AB/AJ been LBA based. AA/AD/AI/AH/AN would swap between both bases would AH would be seen more in LBA then MAN and AD the other way round. It was only really AA/AI that would flick properly between the two.
The reasons they'd swap out is for, as I've stated, maintenance that cannot be performed a the base due facilities (Usually akin to a car service check) and maybe where they need to clear a defect but again would rather do it in a base that has facilities to in case of grounding.
I'm not that ofay with TUI fleet and where they are based, but when Jet2 had the 757 split fleet, AG/AC/AE were predominately MAN based with AK/AB/AJ been LBA based. AA/AD/AI/AH/AN would swap between both bases would AH would be seen more in LBA then MAN and AD the other way round. It was only really AA/AI that would flick properly between the two.
The TUI fleet of approx 65 airframes has approx 13 UK bases so the airframes are rotated around all those bases, as has been said, for maintenance/lease costs etc.
I am based at LGW on the 787 and never fly the same airframe every week......
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just noted on our eTicket issued today return flight aircraft type on the 3 Jun now changed for the 4th time and now showing B757 (Privileged?? ) yet when you log onto my booking on the TUI site still showing A321 hence cant sort the pre booked extra leg seats etc. It took a few weeks for TUI to update last time which isn't great. Certainly a bit of juggling going on still. So maybe in answer to some previous queries on leased aircraft TUI for this summer, perhaps not having a A321 at Manchester?
Meanwhile at Gatwick them are meant to be leasing 2 A321's from AvionExpress Malta next week, but guess what, all their A321s are currently subleased to other airlines!!! Do TUI actually know what they are doing?? It must be keeping the TUI planning dept on their toes!!!
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
TUI are showing a SmartLynx A321 based a Manchester, but the issue is SmartLynx's 4 passenger A321s are all operating from BHX for Jet2, so unless they plan to very quickly get their hands on a second hand A321 from somewhere, its not going to happen. So maybe more sub charters, or a downgrade to a SmartLynx A320?
Meanwhile at Gatwick them are meant to be leasing 2 A321's from AvionExpress Malta next week, but guess what, all their A321s are currently subleased to other airlines!!! Do TUI actually know what they are doing?? It must be keeping the TUI planning dept on their toes!!!
Meanwhile at Gatwick them are meant to be leasing 2 A321's from AvionExpress Malta next week, but guess what, all their A321s are currently subleased to other airlines!!! Do TUI actually know what they are doing?? It must be keeping the TUI planning dept on their toes!!!
TUI must be seriously short of their own AC this summer with all the extra AC being used from various airlines
But this was ever the way with traditional IT holiday flight operators which were "captive" to a tour operator. TUI's forbear, Thomson, would use their own Britannia Airways aircraft to the extent practical, but then charter in from various operators, whether UK or resort based (Spantax, Transeuropa, that lot) to add to their capacity where required. They were often not advertised as such in the holiday brochures, it was only apparent on ticketing.
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Suffolk, Diss, UK
Age: 50
Posts: 677
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
But this was ever the way with traditional IT holiday flight operators which were "captive" to a tour operator. TUI's forbear, Thomson, would use their own Britannia Airways aircraft to the extent practical, but then charter in from various operators, whether UK or resort based (Spantax, Transeuropa, that lot) to add to their capacity where required. They were often not advertised as such in the holiday brochures, it was only apparent on ticketing.
Neither of these were planned as far as I am aware? Unless anyone else knows otherwise?
Last edited by SJL26779; 23rd May 2022 at 08:49.
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 2,831
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sounds as though the "Flymaybe" epithet may have moved to TUI from the (former) business for which it was originally coined.
Of course that's nonsense, and the majority of TUI flights are operating to schedule, or very close to it.
Of course that's nonsense, and the majority of TUI flights are operating to schedule, or very close to it.
Join Date: Nov 1998
Location: 🇬🇧🇪🇸
Posts: 2,089
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Suffolk, Diss, UK
Age: 50
Posts: 677
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: BIRMINGHAM
Age: 61
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Whilst its true all airlines are having staffing issues it does seem TUI are suffering more than most.
Interestingly I am aware of a number of staff working for other airlines who were with TUI pre pandemic. it may obviously work the other way as well but TUI do seem to have lost a lot of decent staff for some reason .
Its also noticeable that while all the sub chartering is going on using other airlines there are a number of TUI aircraft inactive. BHX for example has a Sunwing ex TUI 737 arrived back from Canada which hasnt moved for about 5 days whilst they are using Air Tanker and Neos amongst others to cover delays,
Hopefully now we are getting in to main season these issues will start to settle, but the brand image is definitely suffering at the moment
Interestingly I am aware of a number of staff working for other airlines who were with TUI pre pandemic. it may obviously work the other way as well but TUI do seem to have lost a lot of decent staff for some reason .
Its also noticeable that while all the sub chartering is going on using other airlines there are a number of TUI aircraft inactive. BHX for example has a Sunwing ex TUI 737 arrived back from Canada which hasnt moved for about 5 days whilst they are using Air Tanker and Neos amongst others to cover delays,
Hopefully now we are getting in to main season these issues will start to settle, but the brand image is definitely suffering at the moment
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: May 2016
Location: The EU
Posts: 620
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The only difference is that the PPrune spotters are only interested in TUI delays.
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Suffolk, Diss, UK
Age: 50
Posts: 677
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
