Aer Lingus UK
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Indo reports 120 crew and 40 pilots based on 4 aircraft and flights expected to go on sale in a few weeks. Only 3 have schedules, one assumes the fourth will be spare and used to boost freq if/when the need arises. The Aer Lingus statement:
https://www.independent.ie/business/...-40205661.html
“Aer Lingus continues to evaluate opportunities to operate North Atlantic routes from [a] regional UK airport,” it told the Irish Independent.
“A final decision has not been taken in relation to the launch of these services which are subject to the granting of all necessary approvals,” it added.
“A final decision has not been taken in relation to the launch of these services which are subject to the granting of all necessary approvals,” it added.
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Precisely this. My anticipation is that these routes don't actually take off until early next year, although every hope for all involved that they can have some kind of season this year.
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Aer Lingus launches new direct UK-US flights with fares from Ł199 each way
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Very exciting developments indeed, I think a July launch is very optimistic given the Governments rhetoric on international travel, but welcome all the same. When doing a dummy booking however, the website states only UK originating bookings can be made. Anyone know why this might be?
Because years ago, for reasons I can't fathom, BA decided to withdraw from the regions and concentrate on LHR. They were forced to keep Gatwick because of capacity limits at LHR but have remained true to that decision. I realise that LCY based Embraers have operated weekend fillers from MAN but thats a long way from a longhaul base like this.
They became "London Airways" and thus Aer Lingus have spotted a potential business which IAG have allowed..........
They became "London Airways" and thus Aer Lingus have spotted a potential business which IAG have allowed..........
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CAA proving flight was today with a A321.
EI went hunting a few years ago for some UK regional locations, Dublin has picked up a significant volume of business as people voted with their feet and wallets to avoid the madness, stress and flying the wrong way via LHR/LGW. So the next step was to fly direct.
1. EI has a heavier focus on Y, BA is heavily tied to premium cabins. EI send A330's down to Spain daily in peak season and fills them, none of the messing BA has with load management on 4 class 777's in Europe.
2. The A330-300 is an efficient long haul passenger aircraft, sure the 777 has more capacity but you don't need the MTOW/range for bucket and spade jobs
3. EI has the A321NEOLR which is unbeatable cost wise. EI's cost base is highly competitive which comes from having Ryanair camped out at your home base, no such worries at LHR...
4. If BA did show up at MAN it would be a worn out 777 or one with the 10 across densification, which isn't going to get you return business. The EI J seat was the best seat on the Atlantic for several years and the A330 Y cabin is a vastly nicer place to be than any 777 version
5. Thomas Cook/Monarch demise and Virgin's constant uncertainty left Manchester with a target on its back and EI took first move advantage
EI went hunting a few years ago for some UK regional locations, Dublin has picked up a significant volume of business as people voted with their feet and wallets to avoid the madness, stress and flying the wrong way via LHR/LGW. So the next step was to fly direct.
1. EI has a heavier focus on Y, BA is heavily tied to premium cabins. EI send A330's down to Spain daily in peak season and fills them, none of the messing BA has with load management on 4 class 777's in Europe.
2. The A330-300 is an efficient long haul passenger aircraft, sure the 777 has more capacity but you don't need the MTOW/range for bucket and spade jobs
3. EI has the A321NEOLR which is unbeatable cost wise. EI's cost base is highly competitive which comes from having Ryanair camped out at your home base, no such worries at LHR...
4. If BA did show up at MAN it would be a worn out 777 or one with the 10 across densification, which isn't going to get you return business. The EI J seat was the best seat on the Atlantic for several years and the A330 Y cabin is a vastly nicer place to be than any 777 version
5. Thomas Cook/Monarch demise and Virgin's constant uncertainty left Manchester with a target on its back and EI took first move advantage
ETOPS
BA were kicked out of the regions by the easyJets of the world. They fly the old BA routes at a fraction of the cost with none of the overheads legacy BA had. Best example I heard was when BA bought British Regional, the Jetstream 41 fleet went from moneymaker to lossmaker overnight once it was plugged into the BA cost base. Big Airways were fat, bloated and entitled and charged top dollar, the market said "no thanks" and went all orange instead. Basically LHR was the only place BA could make money back then.
I think the refurbished 10 abreast B777s are actually quite nice, and no different to Emirates or Qatar. Aer Lingus uses an A330 on a DUB-AGP between long hauls for passengers holidaying in Spain, BA do the same with a B777 on LHR-MAD, although mainly for cargo and connections to Iberia long haul so more premium seats are needed.
Do we know what the callsign will be for the G- Aer Lingus fleet?
BA were kicked out of the regions by the easyJets of the world. They fly the old BA routes at a fraction of the cost with none of the overheads legacy BA had. Best example I heard was when BA bought British Regional, the Jetstream 41 fleet went from moneymaker to lossmaker overnight once it was plugged into the BA cost base. Big Airways were fat, bloated and entitled and charged top dollar, the market said "no thanks" and went all orange instead. Basically LHR was the only place BA could make money back then.
I think the refurbished 10 abreast B777s are actually quite nice, and no different to Emirates or Qatar. Aer Lingus uses an A330 on a DUB-AGP between long hauls for passengers holidaying in Spain, BA do the same with a B777 on LHR-MAD, although mainly for cargo and connections to Iberia long haul so more premium seats are needed.
Do we know what the callsign will be for the G- Aer Lingus fleet?
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I'm not a particularly large person, and I find 10-abreast in a 777 to be miserable.
Separately, unless something dramatic has changed in the last few years, I reckon Emirates' ICE has the edge over anything BA offers on the seat back.
I'm not a particularly large person, and I find 10-abreast in a 777 to be miserable.
Separately, unless something dramatic has changed in the last few years, I reckon Emirates' ICE has the edge over anything BA offers on the seat back.
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Some stats on traffic split from MAN and overall UK transit.
https://www.anna.aero/2021/03/25/aer...b-hub-success/
https://www.anna.aero/2021/03/25/aer...b-hub-success/