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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 10:07
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As much as I want to disagree Shamrock7seal, never say never. Pandemic or no pandemic I still canít quite believe that BOH has its own A340-600 cargo operation to JFK and Asia; who wouldíve thought that was on the cards a few years ago?
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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 10:43
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How would you do it? Airports both owned by seperate private companies?
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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 11:02
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That would be the first hurdle, some sort of JV between them?

It would be possible to share functions like ATC, security and ground handling to be more efficient I would’ve thought.
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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 12:24
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Not a chance, SOU ATC is Nats run, handling by Swissport, plus security I believe external? BOH runs everything in house, that in itself says alot about running a lean business model, something SOU could learn from RCA, especially in these tough times of cost saving.
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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 13:31
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BRS's pubic transport connectivity, although lacking a rail connection, has more than that. This is the normal programme in non-pandemic times.

A1 Flyer liveried double-decker service to Bristol's main railway station and bus station operates 24/7 at a frequency of every few minutes for much of the time.

There is also an A2 liveried double-decker service that operates to a different part of the city centre by a different route mainly every 30 minutes, this one almost 24 hours per day.

An A3 Flyer liveried single-decker operates hourly to Weston-super-Mare from early until late (this one roughly equates with the 0500 to 2300 period mentioned).

An A4 liveried double-decker service to Bath that operates every 30 minutes for most of the time, this one also almost 24 hours per day.

An A5 village bus, small single decker linking neighbouring villages.

Stagecoach's South West Falcon, a large liveried coach service to Taunton, Exeter and Plymouth with 19 return journeys every 24 hour period.

National Express to Newport and Cardiff with 10 return journeys every 24 hours.

So BOH would need a lot more than a shuttle bus operating 0500 to 2300 to the main railway station if it wanted to replicate BRS's public transport connectivity.

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Old 23rd Feb 2021, 15:51
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Give Bournemouth it's travel connections that it has always needed,i.e. Rail/Road-bus links and there's no contest with SOU.Bournemouth runway,nav aids,ground stands,and weather have and always will top Southampton.Surely now with covid there is clearly only one airport required for the south.coast,and Bournemouth has to be the viable option.
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Old 24th Feb 2021, 15:35
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Bournemouth certainly has 'the edge' when it comes to leisure travel, but most of Southampton's business travellers (previously using the former Flybe services to the likes of Amsterdam, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Manchester, Belfast, Paris etc would probably never relocate to Bournemouth.

A fair proportion of this business is/was generated from areas further north and east of Southampton. The journey across the New Forest to Bournemouth can be just as long time-wise as the drive to LHR, so much of this business would simply either relocate to Heathrow or, in the case of domestic traffic, cease to exist with people electing to drive - which is probably even more likely.

Bournemouth however, with better public transport connections, would absolutely thrive with leisure/city-break and holiday/sun-route business.

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Old 25th Feb 2021, 16:30
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TUI

Hearing that TUI is taking the sledge hammer to most of its 2021 schedules - no idea yet about BOH and how badly it will be affected but apparently most if not all bases are affected in some way.
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 16:32
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Looks like 5 routes withdrawn
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 18:03
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Cuts across Europe expected. Latest IATA forecast published yesterday now expects demand this year to be just 38% of 2019 at best, with a risk of 33%.

https://www.iata.org/en/pressroom/pr/2021-24-02-01/

Europe is the region worst affected, due reliance on international - lots of small countries with very small/no domestic traffic.

Cargo is the bright spot and likely to remain so for quite a while.
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Old 25th Feb 2021, 21:01
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TUI Airways BOH Schedule

The Bournemouth based TUI Airways Boeing 737-800 still has a full schedule planned for this summer, two departures each day. Although it's admittedly less flying than what had been planned for Summer 2020.

MONDAY

07:05-12:05, 13:05-14:45 Corfu
15:35-21:45, 22:45-01:15(+1) Antalya

TUESDAY

07:20-10:30, 11:30-12:45 Palma
14:25-19:40, 20:40-22:05 Kefalonia

WEDNESDAY

06:25-09:40, 10:40-12:00 Menorca
13:10-19:40, 20:55-23:50 Paphos

THURSDAY

06:50-10:00, 11:10-12:25 Palma
14:15-18:10, 19:10-22:55 Lanzarote

FRIDAY

06:55-11:55, 12:55-14:05 Corfu
15:20-21:30, 22:35-01:05(+1) Antalya

SATURDAY

07:45-10:55, 12:10-13:25 Palma
14:55-20:55, 21:55-00:05(+1) Rhodes

SUNDAY

06:35-09:45, 10:45-12:00 Palma
13:30-18:55, 19:55-21:25 Zante

* Information for July 2021
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Old 26th Feb 2021, 13:31
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Ryanair has begun to release its winter schedule and the based aircraft continues to be used
Dublin has been re introduced with 4 flights a week and Tenerife has an extra flight taking it to 2 x week
Malta also continues into the winter season having been previously stopped
Prague looks to have been dropped surprisingly
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Old 1st Mar 2021, 20:16
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Schedules update

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/ne...mouth-airport/
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Old 2nd Mar 2021, 09:23
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BOH handled 176,000 passengers in 2020 compared to 803,000 in 2019.

Comparison airports in the South/West:

SOU 296,000
EXT 148,000
BRS 2,193,000
NQY 68,000
CWL 219,000
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Old 3rd Mar 2021, 11:23
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Freight stats?

I canít find any BOH related freight stats on the CAA airport data pages. Every other airport seems to be listed apart from BOH? Pretty sure BOH would have had a very successful 2020 in regards to Freight tonnage throughput.
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Old 4th Mar 2021, 14:06
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The CAA don't yet have the data from the airport.
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Old 4th Mar 2021, 14:33
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Where is the 2020 data on the CAA website, there is usually an annual summary but I can only see the seperate months for 2020?
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Old 18th Mar 2021, 00:32
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easyJet new routes

Who was betting on this!? easyjet are adding two new summer seasonal routes to Bournemouth, presumably aimed almost entirely at the inbound domestic tourism market.

Belfast - 2x weekly Weds/Sat starting 26th May
Edinburgh - 2x weekly Thurs/Sun starting 27th May
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Old 18th Mar 2021, 10:32
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I was!

Great news. The last time BFS was operated was by Jet2 daily 737-300 in 2004/5? Far too much capacity I thought at the time so this should be an interesting development. Seems like a similar programme to the one NQY has managed to create - perfect for BOH inbound leisure/tourism. Will certainly compete well, fare wise, with the Eastern J-41 operation at SOU.

Last time EDI was operated was by Ryanair at either double daily or daily 737-800 frequency - again far too much and would mean terrible yields! So at two a week focusing on inbound it should do well. Again, this also will compete well on a fare basis with BA cityflyer & Loganair from SOU.
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Old 18th Mar 2021, 14:26
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Jet2

Do you think Jet2 inbound weekend services from MAN, NCL, LBA a couple of times a week would also work? Just for the summer seasonal period of course.
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