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Old 10th Apr 2022, 07:27
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As someone who has done no flying (for various reasons) for four years I'm at a loss to figure it out
so I'll ask nicely but what do the numbers against the various airport names mean, please?

okay got my hat and coat, door?
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Old 10th Apr 2022, 10:29
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Still no airline / aircraft been allocated to the TUI Antalya flight on a Friday and the first flight is in 3 weeks

The Dalaman service is now being operated by TUI on a W pattern from Doncaster
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Old 10th Apr 2022, 11:48
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Originally Posted by cliver029
As someone who has done no flying (for various reasons) for four years I'm at a loss to figure it out
so I'll ask nicely but what do the numbers against the various airport names mean, please?

okay got my hat and coat, door?
If you mean on the thread titles, it's the number of threads on that airport or airline, so this is the fifth thread that has been started on Bournemouth.
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Old 12th Apr 2022, 07:48
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CARGO

Cargo investment

https://www.aircargonews.net/cargo-a...ing-operation/

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Old 12th Apr 2022, 08:24
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EASA are dropping the exemption for P2F from 31/07. Presumably other regulatory authorities will follow suit at some stage. How will that impact BOH and the A340's?

https://www.easa.europa.eu/newsroom-...r-compartments
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Old 12th Apr 2022, 09:07
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https://www.aircargonews.net/busines...or-investment/

Not really effecting the cargo aircraft here as they are being converted fully
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Old 12th Apr 2022, 09:14
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
EASA are dropping the exemption for P2F from 31/07. Presumably other regulatory authorities will follow suit at some stage. How will that impact BOH and the A340's?

https://www.easa.europa.eu/newsroom-...r-compartments

it should help them, all the 340’s and the Maleth 330s are being converted to P2F using the Avensis Aviation solutions, announced about 6 months ago, Lots of info about this on the web.

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Fully converted as with main-deck door, floor and fire suppresant system? Avensis also seem to be marketing a combi set-up, which was a bit of a surprise, who allows this now?
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Fully converted as with main-deck door, floor and fire suppresant system? Avensis also seem to be marketing a combi set-up, which was a bit of a surprise, who allows this now?
Lots on the web about what each conversion will be, both the Avensis web site and in the trade press and on Linkedin. the EASA STC for the conversion is expected Q2 2022, which fits with the EASA deadline. It seems that the 10 or so conversions sold to Maleth are for the Flight service A330 and the European Cargo A340 fleets, none of which are slated for the Main Deck Cargo Door. Cabin fire detection and suppression systems will be a big part of the STC. I'd expect the EASA certification to be ahead of UK CAA, so the Malta registered fleet probably first for conversion.

More interesting will be the impact on available capacity from August 1st. Several carriers will then cease to fly main deck cargo; Wamos (Spain) Hi-Fly (Malta/Portugal) Smartlynx and AirHub from the Baltics. Apparently some 40 aircraft affected in Europe (including Lufthansa and BA). This will bolster demand for the freighters remaining in service.

Its not yet clear to me at least whether the UK CAA exemption for cargo in the cabin will expire at the same time as EASA (July 31st), which may partly explain why three of European's A340 are UK registered. Either way, it looks from info in the public domain that all the European A340 will be converted this year. Also expecting additions to the European Cargo operating fleet according to recent press reports, I'd expect these to be more A340 and possibly A330.

Also noted that BOH is adding three wide body parking stands, primarily intended for Cargo (not just European), the airport is going after the London freight market - these new stands should be in service by mid summer.

Nice to see investment by the airport in this new infrastructure and the international participation in this locally based airline.

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Originally Posted by Flitefone
Lots on the web about what each conversion will be, both the Avensis web site and in the trade press and on Linkedin. the EASA STC for the conversion is expected Q2 2022, which fits with the EASA deadline. It seems that the 10 or so conversions sold to Maleth are for the Flight service A330 and the European Cargo A340 fleets, none of which are slated for the Main Deck Cargo Door. Cabin fire detection and suppression systems will be a big part of the STC. I'd expect the EASA certification to be ahead of UK CAA, so the Malta registered fleet probably first for conversion.

More interesting will be the impact on available capacity from August 1st. Several carriers will then cease to fly main deck cargo; Wamos (Spain) Hi-Fly (Malta/Portugal) Smartlynx and AirHub from the Baltics. Apparently some 40 aircraft affected in Europe (including Lufthansa and BA). This will bolster demand for the freighters remaining in service.

Its not yet clear to me at least whether the UK CAA exemption for cargo in the cabin will expire at the same time as EASA (July 31st), which may partly explain why three of European's A340 are UK registered. Either way, it looks from info in the public domain that all the European A340 will be converted this year. Also expecting additions to the European Cargo operating fleet according to recent press reports, I'd expect these to be more A340 and possibly A330.

Also noted that BOH is adding three wide body parking stands, primarily intended for Cargo (not just European), the airport is going after the London freight market - these new stands should be in service by mid summer.

Nice to see investment by the airport in this new infrastructure and the international participation in this locally based airline.

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Excellent news for the airport,at least there is some investment for the South Coast that should safeguard the future for the airport.
Southampton seems still uncertain in any further developments with strong opposition
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Old 22nd Apr 2022, 08:11
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Update on aircraft and airlines using the airport this summer

TUI operating a based B738 and a W pattern aircraft to Dalaman

FR operating a based B738

Feeebird operating an A320 to Antalya 1 x week

Alba star operating a B738 to Palma 1 x week

Lauda operating an A320 4 x week to Palma and Zadar

Buzz operating an B738 and B73Max to Wrocław and Krakow 4 x week
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Originally Posted by MARKEYD
Update on aircraft and airlines using the airport this summer

TUI operating a based B738 and a W pattern aircraft to Dalaman

FR operating a based B738

Feeebird operating an A320 to Antalya 1 x week

Alba star operating a B738 to Palma 1 x week

Lauda operating an A320 4 x week to Palma and Zadar

Buzz operating an B738 and B73Max to Wrocław and Krakow 4 x week
Its Freebird operating the flight on a Monday to Dalaman now ,Instead of the W pattern TUI flight .
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Ryanair have started to load their winter schedule for Bournemouth which sees the return of Lisbon which was postponed this summer due to a dispute with the Portuguese government over unused slots

Wrocław and Budapest continues as well 2 x week

The based aircraft sees a lot more use of destinations this winter rather than sitting around on the ramp
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Old 25th Apr 2022, 19:54
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Originally Posted by RW20
Excellent news for the airport,at least there is some investment for the South Coast that should safeguard the future for the airport.
Southampton seems still uncertain in any further developments with strong opposition
The CAAC in China has already cancelled the exemption for Chinese carriers and as much of the west continues to open their economies and down grade COVID19 measures imho the P2F market has already peaked .


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Originally Posted by Rutan16
The CAAC in China has already cancelled the exemption for Chinese carriers and as much of the west continues to open their economies and down grade COVID19 measures imho the P2F market has already peaked .
I think you will find that the rise and rise of E-Commerce that expanded during the pandemic, has mainly been sustained. Only a global recession could quell that...........
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Boeing have a clear view, this from their current freight demand forecast:

Global Freighter Fleet to Grow More Than 60% to 3,260 Over the Next Two Decades

A combination of 4.0% annual average traffic growth, measured in tonne-kilometers, and a proven need for dedicated freighter capacity means the freighter fleet will grow by more than 60% over the next two decades. By 2039, 2,430 freighters are forecast to be delivered, with approximately half replacing retiring airplanes and the remainder needed to meet projected traffic growth. More than one-third of these deliveries will be new widebody cargo airplanes; nearly two-thirds of the deliveries will be conversions from passenger airplanes.

source: https://www.boeing.com/commercial/ma...argo-forecast/

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Surprise addition to the summer schedule is the return of Malta starting again in July

Operates 2 x week Tue and Sat using a
Malta air 737 max
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BOH-LIS

…also Lisbon has been re-added to W22/23 twice per week on Mondays and Fridays.
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More info here about the route to Malta. https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/bourne...s-summer-33956
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April 2022

Bournemouth handled over 60,000 passengers in April 2022 compared with 48,000 at SOU
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