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If you mean Level 3 (Slot Coordinated) then no - it's Level 2 (Schedules Facilitated Airport)
UK Level 3 airports (according to IATA website) are the 5 London ones (LHR LGW STN LTN LCY) plus MAN BHX and BRS in summer (Level 2 in winter)
UK Level 3 airports (according to IATA website) are the 5 London ones (LHR LGW STN LTN LCY) plus MAN BHX and BRS in summer (Level 2 in winter)
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Aug 2022 - EDI Route statistics
Someone will no doubt be able to calculate roughly what load percentages were.
QR - DOH 17,350 (Best comparison available is Aug 2019 when Qatar operated double daily 3 x per week if I remember rightly? - 19,432)
AC - YYZ - 15,852
DL - JFK - 13,095 (Aug 2019 - 9,163 on a 752 aircraft)
DL - BOS - 9,078
UA - EWR - 10,075 (Aug 2019 - 9755)
UA - ORD - 9576 (Aug 2019 - 8970)
UA - IAD - 13,448 (Aug 2019 - 8611 on a 752 aircraft)
VS - MCO - 3,802
QR- DOH appears to have performed very strongly.
AC and WS - YYZ must be happy with the peak summer performance. Surely sufficient demand exists to have some form of year round service on this route?
DL - JFK returning a very healthy performance and fairly substantial increase in pax numbers compared to 2019. Albeit on a slightly larger capacity 763.
DL - BOS. Very strong considering only 5 x weekly. Going daily in S23 which is a sign of confidence in the route.
All the UA routes appear to have performed very strongly. IAD is the obvious standout. Again using a higher capacity 764. 239 seats compared to a 169 seat 752.
VS - MCO. Currently on sale for S23 but VS is well known for doing random things. Time will tell if this is good enough to retain the route in the long run.
Someone will no doubt be able to calculate roughly what load percentages were.
QR - DOH 17,350 (Best comparison available is Aug 2019 when Qatar operated double daily 3 x per week if I remember rightly? - 19,432)
AC - YYZ - 15,852
DL - JFK - 13,095 (Aug 2019 - 9,163 on a 752 aircraft)
DL - BOS - 9,078
UA - EWR - 10,075 (Aug 2019 - 9755)
UA - ORD - 9576 (Aug 2019 - 8970)
UA - IAD - 13,448 (Aug 2019 - 8611 on a 752 aircraft)
VS - MCO - 3,802
QR- DOH appears to have performed very strongly.
AC and WS - YYZ must be happy with the peak summer performance. Surely sufficient demand exists to have some form of year round service on this route?
DL - JFK returning a very healthy performance and fairly substantial increase in pax numbers compared to 2019. Albeit on a slightly larger capacity 763.
DL - BOS. Very strong considering only 5 x weekly. Going daily in S23 which is a sign of confidence in the route.
All the UA routes appear to have performed very strongly. IAD is the obvious standout. Again using a higher capacity 764. 239 seats compared to a 169 seat 752.
VS - MCO. Currently on sale for S23 but VS is well known for doing random things. Time will tell if this is good enough to retain the route in the long run.
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All looks pretty positive - hope the success of transatlantic routes keeps up!
Wonder if we'll see EWR upgraded at some point? Isn't it the only year round narrowbody transatlantic flight that United operate?
I'd agree with you on a year round Toronto route. I reckon Air Canada could sustain it during the winter on the 737 Max or when their A321XLRs arrive - even if it's kept at a 3x weekly service. Even Glasgow can sustain a YYZ route! Albeit only once weekly.
Wonder if we'll see EWR upgraded at some point? Isn't it the only year round narrowbody transatlantic flight that United operate?
I'd agree with you on a year round Toronto route. I reckon Air Canada could sustain it during the winter on the 737 Max or when their A321XLRs arrive - even if it's kept at a 3x weekly service. Even Glasgow can sustain a YYZ route! Albeit only once weekly.
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All looks pretty positive - hope the success of transatlantic routes keeps up!
Wonder if we'll see EWR upgraded at some point? Isn't it the only year round narrowbody transatlantic flight that United operate?
I'd agree with you on a year round Toronto route. I reckon Air Canada could sustain it during the winter on the 737 Max or when their A321XLRs arrive - even if it's kept at a 3x weekly service. Even Glasgow can sustain a YYZ route! Albeit only once weekly.
Wonder if we'll see EWR upgraded at some point? Isn't it the only year round narrowbody transatlantic flight that United operate?
I'd agree with you on a year round Toronto route. I reckon Air Canada could sustain it during the winter on the 737 Max or when their A321XLRs arrive - even if it's kept at a 3x weekly service. Even Glasgow can sustain a YYZ route! Albeit only once weekly.
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Ok obviously I am going to be positive about EDI but that is a very very strong set of results particularly North America. Don’t think it will be long before AA are back.
You CANNOT say a route is performing very strongly based on absolute volumes, load factor will be leading indicator and yield will be commercially sensitive data. Extrapolating high summer nos meaning YYZ could go year needs to factor in seasonality in Canada where the capacity is better used on Snowbird flights South to the sunspots of Florida and the Carribean. Canada-UK remains massively seasonal, and frankly so is USA-UK, nothing wrong or too alarming about a winter hiatus. MAN-YYZ remains seasonal whereas DUB-YYZ has both Aer Lingus and Air Canada, with AC serving YYZ/YUL/YVR and YYZ flown year round. The perils of the LHR option!
United only have 12 B787-8s and their range isn't needed on an EDI rotation but Air Canada only have 8 and they'll be back next summer!
The new A321s will be along soon enough and it's not as if there's not enough of them around already, you guys will miss the B757/B767 show when it's over.
United only have 12 B787-8s and their range isn't needed on an EDI rotation but Air Canada only have 8 and they'll be back next summer!
The new A321s will be along soon enough and it's not as if there's not enough of them around already, you guys will miss the B757/B767 show when it's over.
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Aug 2022 - EDI Route statistics
Someone will no doubt be able to calculate roughly what load percentages were.
QR - DOH 17,350 (Best comparison available is Aug 2019 when Qatar operated double daily 3 x per week if I remember rightly? - 19,432)
AC - YYZ - 15,852
DL - JFK - 13,095 (Aug 2019 - 9,163 on a 752 aircraft)
DL - BOS - 9,078
UA - EWR - 10,075 (Aug 2019 - 9755)
UA - ORD - 9576 (Aug 2019 - 8970)
UA - IAD - 13,448 (Aug 2019 - 8611 on a 752 aircraft)
VS - MCO - 3,802
QR- DOH appears to have performed very strongly.
AC and WS - YYZ must be happy with the peak summer performance. Surely sufficient demand exists to have some form of year round service on this route?
DL - JFK returning a very healthy performance and fairly substantial increase in pax numbers compared to 2019. Albeit on a slightly larger capacity 763.
DL - BOS. Very strong considering only 5 x weekly. Going daily in S23 which is a sign of confidence in the route.
All the UA routes appear to have performed very strongly. IAD is the obvious standout. Again using a higher capacity 764. 239 seats compared to a 169 seat 752.
VS - MCO. Currently on sale for S23 but VS is well known for doing random things. Time will tell if this is good enough to retain the route in the long run.
Someone will no doubt be able to calculate roughly what load percentages were.
QR - DOH 17,350 (Best comparison available is Aug 2019 when Qatar operated double daily 3 x per week if I remember rightly? - 19,432)
AC - YYZ - 15,852
DL - JFK - 13,095 (Aug 2019 - 9,163 on a 752 aircraft)
DL - BOS - 9,078
UA - EWR - 10,075 (Aug 2019 - 9755)
UA - ORD - 9576 (Aug 2019 - 8970)
UA - IAD - 13,448 (Aug 2019 - 8611 on a 752 aircraft)
VS - MCO - 3,802
QR- DOH appears to have performed very strongly.
AC and WS - YYZ must be happy with the peak summer performance. Surely sufficient demand exists to have some form of year round service on this route?
DL - JFK returning a very healthy performance and fairly substantial increase in pax numbers compared to 2019. Albeit on a slightly larger capacity 763.
DL - BOS. Very strong considering only 5 x weekly. Going daily in S23 which is a sign of confidence in the route.
All the UA routes appear to have performed very strongly. IAD is the obvious standout. Again using a higher capacity 764. 239 seats compared to a 169 seat 752.
VS - MCO. Currently on sale for S23 but VS is well known for doing random things. Time will tell if this is good enough to retain the route in the long run.
LF’s
Rough calcs for some of the routes. Hopefully not too far off the mark.
EWR - 96%
DOH - 98%
ORD - 92%
IAD - 91%
JFK - 94%
BOS - 96%
MCO - 80%
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https://www.routesonline.com/news/29...ng-at-calgary/
Could this be the end of EDI-YYZ with WestJet? All long haul destinations will be from Calgary. No mention specifically of 7M8 aircraft just 787’s. Potentially disappointing for the airport but good news for Air Canada. Will WS introduce EDI-Calgary? Would a 7M8 reach EDI?
Could this be the end of EDI-YYZ with WestJet? All long haul destinations will be from Calgary. No mention specifically of 7M8 aircraft just 787’s. Potentially disappointing for the airport but good news for Air Canada. Will WS introduce EDI-Calgary? Would a 7M8 reach EDI?
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https://www.routesonline.com/news/29...ng-at-calgary/
Could this be the end of EDI-YYZ with WestJet? All long haul destinations will be from Calgary. No mention specifically of 7M8 aircraft just 787’s. Potentially disappointing for the airport but good news for Air Canada. Will WS introduce EDI-Calgary? Would a 7M8 reach EDI?
Could this be the end of EDI-YYZ with WestJet? All long haul destinations will be from Calgary. No mention specifically of 7M8 aircraft just 787’s. Potentially disappointing for the airport but good news for Air Canada. Will WS introduce EDI-Calgary? Would a 7M8 reach EDI?
The B737max will still fly intercontinental
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Not disappointing for me personally, but thanks for the concern! Good to hear this is only for 787 operations. Perhaps the wording of the article lead to some confusion.
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Dalaman is getting an extra weekly rotation I hear…..also Jersey rout me returning for S23
Suspect other capacity increases built into the current 39 routes.
Would have liked to have seen some North Africa routes added though, curd only through GLA
Suspect other capacity increases built into the current 39 routes.
Would have liked to have seen some North Africa routes added though, curd only through GLA
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TK
Being reported that PIA have entered a codeshare agreement with TK. This will allow Pakistani pax to transit via IST to EDI. Could be very good news for EDI and TK. Large Pakistani community in Scotland. The Pakistani flights are normally rammed with luggage and cargo. This could lead to more wide body aircraft on the EDI-IST route.
Being reported that PIA have entered a codeshare agreement with TK. This will allow Pakistani pax to transit via IST to EDI. Could be very good news for EDI and TK. Large Pakistani community in Scotland. The Pakistani flights are normally rammed with luggage and cargo. This could lead to more wide body aircraft on the EDI-IST route.
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Being reported that PIA have entered a codeshare agreement with TK. This will allow Pakistani pax to transit via IST to EDI. Could be very good news for EDI and TK. Large Pakistani community in Scotland. The Pakistani flights are normally rammed with luggage and cargo. This could lead to more wide body aircraft on the EDI-IST route.
Being reported that PIA have entered a codeshare agreement with TK. This will allow Pakistani pax to transit via IST to EDI. Could be very good news for EDI and TK. Large Pakistani community in Scotland. The Pakistani flights are normally rammed with luggage and cargo. This could lead to more wide body aircraft on the EDI-IST route.
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That said, like most of us, the price will play a huge deciding factor for many groups.
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As already reported on the SOU thread, Loganair are increasing flights to Southampton from both EDI and Glasgow to 5/day, 30/week. They're also increasing EXE to twice daily and adding a fourth flight to Bergen next summer. An additional EMB145 will be based at EDI.