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EDI has done to GLA what 1980s GLA did to PIK!
Having said that, there's a case that if EDI is now Scotland's gateway to the world, it probably needs rebuilding for the 2030s and the CAPEX needed might not be forthcoming? They're currently doing the old BAA thing of squeezing a pint into a 1/2 pint glass and as we bounce back, it's going to be shown up as exactly that in the years ahead. That's still a 1977 terminal and layout planned on a fraction of the throughput.
Having said that, there's a case that if EDI is now Scotland's gateway to the world, it probably needs rebuilding for the 2030s and the CAPEX needed might not be forthcoming? They're currently doing the old BAA thing of squeezing a pint into a 1/2 pint glass and as we bounce back, it's going to be shown up as exactly that in the years ahead. That's still a 1977 terminal and layout planned on a fraction of the throughput.
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EDI has done to GLA what 1980s GLA did to PIK!
Having said that, there's a case that if EDI is now Scotland's gateway to the world, it probably needs rebuilding for the 2030s and the CAPEX needed might not be forthcoming? They're currently doing the old BAA thing of squeezing a pint into a 1/2 pint glass and as we bounce back, it's going to be shown up as exactly that in the years ahead. That's still a 1977 terminal and layout planned on a fraction of the throughput.
Having said that, there's a case that if EDI is now Scotland's gateway to the world, it probably needs rebuilding for the 2030s and the CAPEX needed might not be forthcoming? They're currently doing the old BAA thing of squeezing a pint into a 1/2 pint glass and as we bounce back, it's going to be shown up as exactly that in the years ahead. That's still a 1977 terminal and layout planned on a fraction of the throughput.
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It did add a new international arrivals hall and some jetties for wide-body aircraft, but it all looks very rushed and cheap with roofs and wiring being left exposed and it feels extremely unwelcoming. The seating areas at the gates are not big enough for the aircraft they were built to serve and there is often overcrowding at the lounges in the new area. Not to mention, the old EDI problem of one gate being used for 2 stands, and corridors having to be closed off to allow for bussed-in arrivals, so departing and arriving passengers don't mix still exist and It still suffers from passengers being held in damp, cold tunnels at busy times. They had a blank slate and the best they could come up with is still not fit for purpose, to be honest.
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It did add a new international arrivals hall and some jetties for wide-body aircraft, but it all looks very rushed and cheap with roofs and wiring being left exposed and it feels extremely unwelcoming. The seating areas at the gates are not big enough for the aircraft they were built to serve and there is often overcrowding at the lounges in the new area. Not to mention, the old EDI problem of one gate being used for 2 stands, and corridors having to be closed off to allow for bussed-in arrivals, so departing and arriving passengers don't mix still exist and It still suffers from passengers being held in damp, cold tunnels at busy times. They had a blank slate and the best they could come up with is still not fit for purpose, to be honest.
Covid delayed that expansion but I imagine it is probably back on the cards again. They are definitely going to need more stands for wide bodies given the time some aircraft waited for a stand this summer.
I think the team at EDI have done a fantastic job growing the portfolio of routes and establishing EDI as the main Scottish airport and often they do not get enough credit for that however they must now address the infrastructure properly.
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The new international arrivals hall was always supposed to be temporary I thought until the next phase of expansion takes place - building out east and then south-east.
Covid delayed that expansion but I imagine it is probably back on the cards again. They are definitely going to need more stands for wide bodies given the time some aircraft waited for a stand this summer.
I think the team at EDI have done a fantastic job growing the portfolio of routes and establishing EDI as the main Scottish airport and often they do not get enough credit for that however they must now address the infrastructure properly.
Covid delayed that expansion but I imagine it is probably back on the cards again. They are definitely going to need more stands for wide bodies given the time some aircraft waited for a stand this summer.
I think the team at EDI have done a fantastic job growing the portfolio of routes and establishing EDI as the main Scottish airport and often they do not get enough credit for that however they must now address the infrastructure properly.
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Can't disagree with any of the comments there. The other thing I'd add is that an expansion of the check in area is badly needed. I find it incredibly crowded during peak periods with lines out the door in some cases.
They've managed to use every square metre they can with the current setup but I don't see where else they can expand to with the current space available. Pretty much whole ground floor is full of check in desks now.
They've managed to use every square metre they can with the current setup but I don't see where else they can expand to with the current space available. Pretty much whole ground floor is full of check in desks now.
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Not only is it a 1977 terminal with bits added on, but it also doesn't even have modern-day features you'd expect from a nation's principal airport, especially one as busy and well connected as EDI. For example, it lacks any international to international transit, requiring all arrivals to clear UK immigration, even those with no desire to visit The UK. There is no duty-free on arrival or indeed any dedicated security lane for transit passengers...or staff! The departure lounge isn't even set up to cater to such passengers. The airport also has an overreliance on remote stands being used at peak times. The access roads to the terminal are so bad it really is like some kind of parody. There is no excuse for any of this other sheer laziness or incompetence. A whole new terminal should have been built a decade or so ago, instead of the half-hearted Pier, and then the even less inspiring Eastern extension, which does barely anything to address the congestion issues the airport is rife with. It seems the BAA mentality is just set to continue at EDI for some time to come.
A planning application for a new access road is with the Scottish Government for determination.
A new terminal would be hugely expensive and disruptive. Perhaps the lack of things you cite above doesn't arise from "sheer laziness or incompetence" but from a hard-headed analysis of costs versus expected returns?
A new terminal would be hugely expensive and disruptive. Perhaps the lack of things you cite above doesn't arise from "sheer laziness or incompetence" but from a hard-headed analysis of costs versus expected returns?
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Edinburgh Airport was bought out by an infrastructure company, with the explicit aim of growing the airport and selling it on for a profit. This was clear from the start. For any such plan to work, they need to grow the number of flights for minimum expenditure. This is exactly what they have done.
If they sell it on.. the new owners are going to want to recoup their money as quick as possible, which means further growth and minimal expenditure.
Don't expect the terminal situation to change any time soon. Any owners are only going to be interested in the short term.
If they sell it on.. the new owners are going to want to recoup their money as quick as possible, which means further growth and minimal expenditure.
Don't expect the terminal situation to change any time soon. Any owners are only going to be interested in the short term.
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Qatar really mixing up the type of aircraft being used. Another 351 due in tomorrow. The previously planned 787-8 only from October also changed. 359 continues throughout the winter on many dates. Occasional 787-8 and quite a few 789’s. A few of the 359’s operating is newer cabin Q-suites. A nice little bonus if you happen to be sitting up front.
Qatar really mixing up the type of aircraft being used. Another 351 due in tomorrow. The previously planned 787-8 only from October also changed. 359 continues throughout the winter on many dates. Occasional 787-8 and quite a few 789’s. A few of the 359’s operating is newer cabin Q-suites. A nice little bonus if you happen to be sitting up front.
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Atlanta route now on sale.
Although subject to change, Delta using higher density J class 763 on BOS and JFK routes next summer. 10 more J seats than on 763 currently being used. Premium select not offered on this variant. An indication that J class performed very strongly in S22? They normally operate higher density premium cabin equipment on routes such as LHR.
J- 36
Comfort plus - 34
Economy - 143
Total - 213
For ATL, DL using same configured 763 currently serving existing routes.
J - 26
Comfort plus - 35
Economy - 171
Total - 232
Premium Select configured equipment still being used on JFK route - W22.
Atlanta route now on sale.
Although subject to change, Delta using higher density J class 763 on BOS and JFK routes next summer. 10 more J seats than on 763 currently being used. Premium select not offered on this variant. An indication that J class performed very strongly in S22? They normally operate higher density premium cabin equipment on routes such as LHR.
J- 36
Comfort plus - 34
Economy - 143
Total - 213
For ATL, DL using same configured 763 currently serving existing routes.
J - 26
Comfort plus - 35
Economy - 171
Total - 232
Premium Select configured equipment still being used on JFK route - W22.
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Qatar really mixing up the type of aircraft being used. Another 351 due in tomorrow. The previously planned 787-8 only from October also changed. 359 continues throughout the winter on many dates. Occasional 787-8 and quite a few 789’s. A few of the 359’s operating is newer cabin Q-suites. A nice little bonus if you happen to be sitting up front.
Qatar really mixing up the type of aircraft being used. Another 351 due in tomorrow. The previously planned 787-8 only from October also changed. 359 continues throughout the winter on many dates. Occasional 787-8 and quite a few 789’s. A few of the 359’s operating is newer cabin Q-suites. A nice little bonus if you happen to be sitting up front.
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Today’s A350-1000 outbound sector was cancelled so could be something to do with it
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Today's outbound was cancelled, so the 773 will be to accommodate some of today's passengers.
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Qatar really mixing up the type of aircraft being used. Another 351 due in tomorrow. The previously planned 787-8 only from October also changed. 359 continues throughout the winter on many dates. Occasional 787-8 and quite a few 789’s. A few of the 359’s operating is newer cabin Q-suites. A nice little bonus if you happen to be sitting up front.
Qatar really mixing up the type of aircraft being used. Another 351 due in tomorrow. The previously planned 787-8 only from October also changed. 359 continues throughout the winter on many dates. Occasional 787-8 and quite a few 789’s. A few of the 359’s operating is newer cabin Q-suites. A nice little bonus if you happen to be sitting up front.
Makes sense. Thanks. I assume the 359 went tech?