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Old 31st Aug 2022, 15:31
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam View Post
I appreciate the point your making, and thereís now hiding from the fact that there will be an impact however as seen in every other recession, not everyone is as affected as you describe.
Your view seams very outbound westerly focused not taken into account the flow of traffic originating from North America in your statement where the I would argue there will remain sustainable wealth and source of east bound traffic. Weíre not shutting shop and pulling down the shutters.
And then you only need to look at Tyanairs CEO press yesterday for test another different perspective on short haul- heís predicting growth.
Sure there will still be some demand, its not "lockdown Mk.2", but I don't believe that in my lifetime we have seen such a shock to household budgets. The USA is suffering inflation not too dissimilar to that which the UK is suffering, though the hefty fall in sterling's value will negate some of that, and unlike other cities in UK, Edinburgh has a pull not too dissimilar to London for North American tourists so nobody would suggest for a moment that travel is going to dry up. The market is however likely to be soft, much softer than 2022 when much travel was bolstered by deferred trips from 2020 and 2021.

If I were managing an airport, or indeed an airline at present I would be looking at matching capacity to likely demand so as to maintain yield, rather than chucking on oodles of extra seats that in the end get flogged off simply to maintain turnover, or negate losses. For the avoidance of doubt I am doing neither!

As for Ryanair, apart from the odd Brexit related hissy fit, has anyone ever heard Michael O'Leary not be bullish about passenger numbers? They can afford to be since if bookings don't meet their required level the airline will just summarily can the route and offer refunds or re-routing which is easier logistically for a short haul carrier to do than a long haul one, where leisure bookings are likely to be made very much further forward.

I just think that all these supposed capacity increases and hoped for expansion is more laced with unfounded optimism and in the cold light of day Summer 2023 could look horrible. I hope sincerely my fears are well wide of the mark.
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Old 1st Sep 2022, 20:32
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Originally Posted by Planeraz View Post
Another 351 due in this afternoon. Hopefully someone will capture this beauty arriving.
Qatar sending another 351 tomorrow. 3 so far this week. Demand must be pretty high, particularly with students. Inbound very heavily booked for the next 2 weeks. Some flights completely sold out and economy sold out in the majority of flights. Very good to see the route performing so strongly.

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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 19:46
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Qatar sending another 351 tomorrow. 3 so far this week. Demand must be pretty high, particularly with students. Inbound very heavily booked for the next 2 weeks. Some flights completely sold out and economy sold out in the majority of flights. Very good to see the route performing so strongly.
With more than 30 A350-900s parked with the allegedly damaged paint work and exposed fibre matting the use of the A350-1000 may well be out of necessity rather than to meet specific peaks in demand to be honest .

Not to say Qatar can sell the extra capacity through.

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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 20:51
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the use of the A350-1000 may well be out of necessity rather than to meet specific peaks in demand to be honest
Ooft donít tell them that..
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Ooft donít tell them that..
Inbound Doha on 3rd has One Business class seat left
Inbound Doha on 4th has only two business seats left
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Don't know what hard to understand on here.
I guess Turkish have kept their A321 on Edi for over a year because...
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Old 2nd Sep 2022, 22:50
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There used to be a old guy in a raincoat at Glasgow who would stand in the car park and count the passengers as they disembarked....

It's great Qatar are seemingly filling seats and making things work when Etihad couldn't, but maybe not read too much into a handful of flights with no visibility on upgrades or pricing, or indeed costs! The A350 likely won't have a longer future at QR anyways, bridges well and truly burned.
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot View Post
There used to be a old guy in a raincoat at Glasgow who would stand in the car park and count the passengers as they disembarked....

It's great Qatar are seemingly filling seats and making things work.
I'm not, I just think it's hilarious that some think all Edi flights are running on empty loads.

I should hope EK are doing well at Glasgow, there's no competition save KL/BA/LH
Edi has options east and south equator with AF/AY/SN/TK as well as KL/BA/LH
Finnair Helsinki flight tonight upgraded to A321 must be because loads are poor 😕


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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot View Post
There used to be a old guy in a raincoat at Glasgow who would stand in the car park and count the passengers as they disembarked....

It's great Qatar are seemingly filling seats and making things work when Etihad couldn't, but maybe not read too much into a handful of flights with no visibility on upgrades or pricing, or indeed costs! The A350 likely won't have a longer future at QR anyways, bridges well and truly burned.
I couldn't help but smile when I read this post. When I first started plane spotting at Glasgow in the 1970s, the bloke Skipness 1F referred to always seemed to in the terminal and if you asked him about an aircraft registration he couldn't help but , no doubt, could have told you the number of passengers who disembarked from flight 123 from airport " X".

One day , one of my companions saw him coming out of a bank so after that we always referred to him as " the bank manager ".

Anyway, apologies for this bout of nostalga, now back to Edinburgh.

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Originally Posted by Albaman View Post
I couldn't help but smile when I read this post. When I first started plane spotting at Glasgow in the 1970s, the bloke Skipness 1F referred to always seemed to in the terminal and if you asked him about an aircraft registration he couldn't help but , no doubt, could have told you the number of passengers who disembarked from flight 123 from airport " X".

One day , one of my companions saw him coming out of a bank so after that we always referred to him as " the bank manager ".

Anyway, apologies for this bout of nostalga, now back to Edinburgh.
The man was the late James Myles , he was always keen on knowing how Glasgow was faring passenger wise , and he was a bank manager !
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Oh that's brilliant, he totally looked like a bank manager too, bless him. Back to Edinburgh.....
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I understand there will be another Air China flight on Sept. 5th
Correct. A 773 this time. Due to land around 15:15.

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As last time it doesn't appear on the online arrivals list, and this time isn't on FlightRadar either, unless it's doing a double drop. On the departure list however.
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As last time it doesn't appear on the online arrivals list, and this time isn't on FlightRadar either, unless it's doing a double drop. On the departure list however.
CA89 - B77W (B-2043)

at time of this post, flying over eastern Russian airspace.
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Odd that it doesn't appear on the FR page linked to the EDI website. Did last time even when it was in Russian airspace. Just curious.
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Originally Posted by inOban View Post
Odd that it doesn't appear on the FR page linked to the EDI website. Did last time even when it was in Russian airspace. Just curious.
Tracked it coming on FR24 as a flight bound for Frankfurt - just think FR24 got confused 😐
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam View Post
Tracked it coming on FR24 as a flight bound for Frankfurt - just think FR24 got confused 😐
If they re-use a flight number, then flight radar will show where that previous flight operated to.
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Turkish

TK using an A333 on todays service. Due in around 10am. Planned 321 looks to have been swapped out for whatever reason.

333 also being used tomorrow and a 332 on Saturday. Higher demand driven by student movements?

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Originally Posted by Planeraz View Post
Turkish

TK using an A333 on todays service. Due in around 10am. Planned 321 looks to have been swapped out for whatever reason.
Could be extra demand with Hearts playing Istanbul Basaksehir in the Europa League. There was another TK 738 coming in later today too but appears to show as cancelled now.
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Originally Posted by NotanAVGeek View Post
Could be extra demand with Hearts playing Istanbul Basaksehir in the Europa League. There was another TK 738 coming in later today too but appears to show as cancelled now.
These changes to the schedule were apparently made some time ago before the football draw and has more to do with International students coming and going ahead of the new terms.
The TK3232 738 you referred to that was listed on EDIís arrivals has now landed- in GLA
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam View Post
Tracked it coming on FR24 as a flight bound for Frankfurt - just think FR24 got confused 😐
Some YouTube footage of the CA 773 landing on Monday.

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