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Old 25th Jul 2022, 17:13
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Edinburgh was fine on Sunday, except Delta took 1.5 hours to the check-in desk (Boston and NYC go roughly the same time) - security etc was good and well-organised as well
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I see the DXB W22 slot report has EDI returning (source: www.acl-uk.org/latest-airport-info/page/3/):



No sign of it on sale though and it would be a bit late to put it on sale now for the start of the W22 season. However, it presumably indicates some intention to return.
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 21:17
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Here’s hoping. I did wonder if this would happen. There’s clearly demand with Qatar enjoying bumper loads. Presumably driven by pax travelling and transiting to Oz and NZ for example. Although they can requests slots and not actually use them, it would be surprising if they didn’t have plans to resume at some point.
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 21:19
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Good spot! Looks like 5x weekly 3 Class B77W similar to what used to operate, based on those numbers. GLA is interesting too. No change in number of movements on W21, but seat capacity way up. Could indicate A380 planned? Just have to wait and see what happens...
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 22:02
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United S22

All three routes continue to perform strongly. EDI-ORD booked full again tomorrow. IAD with only 1 J seat available. EWR aircraft upgraded to a 764 and booked full.

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Old 26th Jul 2022, 22:33
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All three routes continue to perform strongly. EDI-ORD booked full again tomorrow. IAD with only 1 J seat available. EWR aircraft upgraded to a 764 and booked full.
There have been a couple cancellations this week, resulting in a back log needing cleared, just for a change for UA... However, yes, loads are extremely high across the board on all transatlantic routes regardless, with the exception of VS MCO, which rather bizarrely has not been the sure fire hit everyone seemed to expect it to be, yet...
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So given Virgin charged a premium to fly GLA-MCO direct on the B744, where has the Florida traffic bled off to?
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 06:11
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
So given Virgin charged a premium to fly GLA-MCO direct on the B744, where has the Florida traffic bled off to?
GLA traffic shifted to MAN? If so, EDI-MCO won't last long
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 07:08
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Originally Posted by GoEDI
There have been a couple cancellations this week, resulting in a back log needing cleared, just for a change for UA... However, yes, loads are extremely high across the board on all transatlantic routes regardless, with the exception of VS MCO, which rather bizarrely has not been the sure fire hit everyone seemed to expect it to be, yet...
Orlando is a very different market.

Other US cities tend to be short city breaks.

MCO is the 14 day holiday, Disney are currently offering a 14 day pass for the price of a 7 day pass (£496pp) suggesting at height of summer they are seeing a turndown.

MCO is a well planned considered and expensive holiday with park tickets amount to a huge sum.


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Old 27th Jul 2022, 07:33
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Blimey there must be some mugs around willing to shell out just shy of £500 for a week (or two) per person for the Disney parks. I found two days more than enough, you can only take so much Disney!

As far as I am aware Florida always sees a downturn in high summer as the weather is horrible, too hot, too humid and you're slap bang in the middle of hurricane season. Americans and Canadians mostly, like swallows, go south in the winter. November to April is by far the best period of the year to enjoy Florida's climate.
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 07:47
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Agreed - not pleasant in summer - tho the hurricane season stretches into December sometimes
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I strongly suspect the main reason for Virgin choosing EDI as their “scottish home” was a financial carrot dangled by management to lure them away from Glasgow. As we know they don’t have any aircraft based at EDI. Profit primarily and load factors will determine how long they hang around for. They’re no different to the majority of airlines. I don’t know what the actual load factors have been for the route but I doubt they have been dreadful. Had they been way below expectation, the route would have been chopped very quickly.
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 08:03
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AIR, because of the link with Delta, there expected to be significant interchange traffic through their hub. Is there?
Disney and others can't believe their luck at the eagerness of the British to visit Florida during its low season when no sane American goes. Mind you, I wouldn't go to the Med in summer either.
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 08:11
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Mind you, I wouldn't go to the Med in summer either.
Me neither, not just the weather but the clientele too!
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 08:33
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Originally Posted by Planeraz
I strongly suspect the main reason for Virgin choosing EDI as their “scottish home” was a financial carrot dangled by management to lure them away from Glasgow. As we know they don’t have any aircraft based at EDI. Profit primarily and load factors will determine how long they hang around for. They’re no different to the majority of airlines. I don’t know what the actual load factors have been for the route but I doubt they have been dreadful. Had they been way below expectation, the route would have been chopped very quickly.
I read on the EDI forum that VS to MCO had a load factor around 71% in June.

Having said that, all of the other transatlantic routes were in the very high 90s in June.

DOH performing well too.
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 08:58
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Originally Posted by A350Saltire
I read on the EDI forum that VS to MCO had a load factor around 71% in June.
Thats not a great figure. Doesn’t show a month on month significant improvement either as you might expect. If I recall equivalent 2018/19 figures even on the much larger 744 were often into the 90’s. Perhaps TUI were correct all along keeping Florida a 4 week series only.
I would imagine though eg IAD and NYC have lots of outbound connectors to Florida also.



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Old 27th Jul 2022, 15:25
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Just going back to those EK slots, if the EDI figure equates to a 5 weekly 777, what is happening with those NCL figures - well over double??
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 17:43
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UA37

UA37 today declared an emergency and diverted to Shannon.

Anyone have an info on what the issue was?

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Old 27th Jul 2022, 17:58
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https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/iris...rport-27590988

Pressurisation issue. Sounds like this was a big scare.

Flight eventually formally cancelled following inspection just after 4pm today.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Just going back to those EK slots, if the EDI figure equates to a 5 weekly 777, what is happening with those NCL figures - well over double??
Have to admit I gave up trying to understand the numbers, seams there could be a number of permutations for EDI like a part return with ex NCL style 5 per week from some time Nov or perhaps a full service from the new year. I could however be reading this totally wrong.
NCL seams a big increase to at least double daily with perhaps some bigger frames too (can NCL take the A380) Looks good for its return to GLA.
However I take this all with a big dash of scepticism as I have no idea how often these reports become reality.
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