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Old 1st Apr 2022, 17:44
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam
I see that EDI had a bit over 514k passengers in Feb this year, I wonder how far back we need to go to find and equivalent Feb figures to this? Airport has felt like it’s getting busier over the past few weeks and more and more retail are reopening which is good too see. Excited to see with a fair number of new routes coming on soon how if the positive trend continues.
935k in Feb 2020 ; 528k in Feb 2003. So, Feb was 55% of pre-Covid traffic. My finger in the air for all regional airports says 90% of pre-Covid traffic this summer quarter, maybe lower for the more business orientated ones.

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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 07:18
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Iberia

iberia operating a MAD-EDI turn today. Due in to EDI at 10:01. Is this a one off charter? They chopped the route last year and it doesn’t appear bookable in the weeks ahead.
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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 08:02
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Originally Posted by Planeraz
Iberia

iberia operating a MAD-EDI turn today. Due in to EDI at 10:01. Is this a one off charter? They chopped the route last year and it doesn’t appear bookable in the weeks ahead.
I suspect this is a one off charter, maybe for School kids. This Flight number and same aircraft operated MAD-INV on 29/3

Still Ryanair and Easy serving Madrid though
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Old 13th Apr 2022, 21:10
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EasyJet add Corfu and Kefalonia for summer 2022 (both 2 per week)

Delta will operate an A330-300 on the JFK route for one week to coincide with the Open Golf at St Andrews.
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Old 21st Apr 2022, 18:16
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Originally Posted by A350Saltire
EasyJet add Corfu and Kefalonia for summer 2022 (both 2 per week)

Delta will operate an A330-300 on the JFK route for one week to coincide with the Open Golf at St Andrews.
Wonder if JFK will return to year round or remain seasonal?

Surprised United have not considered upsizing the frame used on the Newark route during the same period. Especially since there is only one daily flight to Scotland from Newark now. Maybe they don’t have the fleet or the crews.

Are there daily loads health across both classes?
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Old 21st Apr 2022, 18:37
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam
Wonder if JFK will return to year round or remain seasonal?
What's on sale on the Delta website?
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Old 21st Apr 2022, 21:24
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Originally Posted by Link Kilo
What's on sale on the Delta website?
Currently 5 x weekly in October, increasing to daily from 1st November. Aircraft also upgraded from November. Newer cabin and more premium heavy 763 with premium select. Having taken a look at peak summer dates and even into September, both JFK and BOS appear to be very solidly booked. Encouraging to see BOS appearing to be popular considering how close both Delta hubs are to each other.

United EDI-EWR has been performing incredibly well. By rough calculation, load factors since resumption sit around 93%. Others have suggested or wondered why they didn’t upgrade to a larger aircraft. United, apparently have aircraft availability issues. The ORD route resumption has already been pushed back to July. EDI-IAD route in May and June operating on a 764.
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Old 22nd Apr 2022, 14:59
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You kinda wonder if EDI isn't a B777-200 candidate once the PW birds are flying again? Possibly one of the domestic configured aircraft even? Unless there's a strong demand for Polaris, it would allow a high volume seasonal lift with a sensible sized business cabin. The United B764 is C39Y203 giving 242 total whereas the B77A is C28Y336 giving 364 in total. American used to do this with the B767 into GLA/MAN, offering US domestic F as a business offering.
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Old 23rd Apr 2022, 22:28
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
You kinda wonder if EDI isn't a B777-200 candidate once the PW birds are flying again? Possibly one of the domestic configured aircraft even? Unless there's a strong demand for Polaris, it would allow a high volume seasonal lift with a sensible sized business cabin. The United B764 is C39Y203 giving 242 total whereas the B77A is C28Y336 giving 364 in total. American used to do this with the B767 into GLA/MAN, offering US domestic F as a business offering.
”PW Birds”??
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Old 23rd Apr 2022, 22:35
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Originally Posted by ib26uk
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Regardless of engines, it won’t be happening (bold print emphasising or not). Outwith a short term rebound boost, even in good pre-covid times the 757’s rarely ran full.
You’ve now got Virgin and WS in the mix taking transatlantic connections.
Apart from UA, American about to start culling their regional Euro summer routes… Make of that what you will.
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They did run full in summer peak, the clue being they operated three flights per day. My point being the use of one larger frame would be an efficient consolidation, am not suggesting a growth path here. Scotland has huge seasonal peaks and troughs to the US and this may be one way of managing this. Virgin have been in market for years, they just moved from one end of the M8 to the other, and Westjet aren't in the same league in getting to the US.
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Old 24th Apr 2022, 11:43
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
Regardless of engines, it won’t be happening (bold print emphasising or not). Outwith a short term rebound boost, even in good pre-covid times the 757’s rarely ran full.
You’ve now got Virgin and WS in the mix taking transatlantic connections.
Apart from UA, American about to start culling their regional Euro summer routes… Make of that what you will.
Don't be so miserable. Times gone by I may have agreed with you, when the Viscounts where flying to EDI from JER/GCI

The developments an opportunites have been amazing. VS to Orlando, A daily Toronto with (AC/WS) never thought I'd see flights to Chigago, Washington, Boston let alone a New York.
let alone direct legacy carriers to BRU, CDG,FRA,AMS,HEL,CPH,OSL,ARN. And that's before the far East with Qatar and Turkish airlines.

I think some people are always going to be a glass is always empty, and that's unfortunate.

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Old 24th Apr 2022, 11:46
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
You kinda wonder if EDI isn't a B777-200 candidate once the PW birds are flying again? Possibly one of the domestic configured aircraft even? Unless there's a strong demand for Polaris, it would allow a high volume seasonal lift with a sensible sized business cabin. The United B764 is C39Y203 giving 242 total whereas the B77A is C28Y336 giving 364 in total. American used to do this with the B767 into GLA/MAN, offering US domestic F as a business offering.
I would have thought that 76A or 76C (or at a push. 787-8 would fit any upgrades airframe better on this route providing reasonable additional seats in all classes, without being too premium heavy. But I guess they are struggling for frames and crews still.
Don’t know if the demand is there for a Daily 777- would be quite a jump up to fill even in peak summer.
If my memory serves me right did they not once go double daily with the same size 757 frame instead favouring additional frequency over increased capacity? Don’t see this happening again anytime soon…..
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There are not many destinations that can be served in Europe by the 757. As long as they are in the fleet, they'll be used to the UK/Ireland to free up larger aircraft for longer routes that the 757 cannot serve.

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United are gradually phasing out their 752 & 753 and 767. A321XLR is the reported replacement. They will have to make a decision how to retain routes or possibly drop some while the new aircraft currently on order enter service. I wouldn’t be surprised to see EDI-ORD dropped in the interim period. With EWR performing well, you’d expect them to ramp up the battle with Delta for the NYC market, particularly as they are scheduled to return to daily in November with a more premium heavy 763, offering premium select. The question is, what aircraft type they will use?
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Originally Posted by Planeraz
United are gradually phasing out their 752 & 753 and 767. A321XLR is the reported replacement.
Gradually. They'll keep enough 757s around to serve the UK market until the A321s arrive.
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Originally Posted by nighthawk117
Gradually. They'll keep enough 757s around to serve the UK market until the A321s arrive.
That would be EDI only now, changed days as LHR doesn't see the B757 and BFS,BRS,BHX,STN and MAN are all (long) gone now. DUB still seems to see the B757 in amongst the bigger aircraft.
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
That would be EDI only now, changed days as LHR doesn't see the B757 and BFS,BRS,BHX,STN and MAN are all (long) gone now. DUB still seems to see the B757 in amongst the bigger aircraft.
​​​​​​Lisbon, and LHR (UA122) are served daily on B757 from Washington.

From Newark, Porto gets a B757 daily
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I believe EDI is the only remaining year round transatlantic destination that sees B752 service from EWR. I'd of thought they would want to get a Polaris/eco+ kitted out aircraft on the route sooner rather than later as demand returns, particularly with competition on the route from DL. The dispatch reliability of the B752 is far from great as well.

I'm surprised that they're putting the B764 on IAD rather than a widebody on EWR tbh, but I presume that all boils down to aircraft availability.
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