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Old 8th Feb 2022, 16:45
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Can you not email the company and ask them when they are re-opening?
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Old 8th Feb 2022, 17:24
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Skipness, I am sure Gatwick will cope with 79 EasyJet. Don’t forget BA have about 12 less SH aircraft for 2022, Norwegian’s presence is less plus Thomas Cook is gone. Overall total based aircraft from all airlines will be similar to 2019. I am sure Gatwick is happy to have the ‘problem’ of so many based aircraft after the past two years.
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Old 8th Feb 2022, 18:04
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It’s also not a new problem to Gatwick, by virtue of the fact that it’s always been an airport where the majority of flights are with based aircraft that start and end the day there. There will always be not enough gates in the morning and too many during the day.

Even back to pre-EZY days in 2002/3, when the airport was full of the larger 757/767s that would leave for the Med every morning. At least 8 different charter airlines were based in Gatwick, which would’ve added up to a fairly similar number as EZY have today. Perhaps a little less noticeable because many of the charter airlines back in those days would come in at 2230 and go out again an hour later. Alas, the arrival of EZY and EU261 largely put a stop to the round the clock operation. Nostalgia.
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Do we know if the 79 based EZY frames include the SmartLynx leased ones as well?
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Pier 6 Extension

During the height of the COVID-19 pandemic Gatwick Airport Limited put on hold the construction of the North Terminal Pier 6 extension which would have allowed for up to severn extra gates with airbridges. If and when this project resumes or more to the point if it had been completed would it have been enough to have accommodated those extra flights planned by easyJet that are scheduled for the South Terminal.
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Old 8th Feb 2022, 20:36
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Adding to the above, does anyone know wether the EZY South terminal operation is a temporary/seasonal measure only? Or is it likely to be year-round?
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With the 79 based EZYs, do they all overnight in LGW, or does that figure include any that night-stop overseas or utilised overnight with a first wave arrival?

Considering FR does a similar sized operation from STN by volume with only 45-50 based (due to there being a lot more non-based flying), this does seem cripplingly inefficient from a LGW perspective.
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Old 8th Feb 2022, 21:28
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
Perhaps you could contact Yotel and ask them when they intend to reopen ?
If the people managing the hotel don't know...
https://www.yotel.com/en/contact-us
They don't, or at least aren't sharing the date as I already emailed them. You'd think if South Terminal was reopening next month they'd have said, but who knows. I just wondered if the rumour network has more intel.
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Old 8th Feb 2022, 22:16
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With the 79 based EZYs, do they all overnight in LGW, or does that figure include any that night-stop overseas or utilised overnight with a first wave arrival?

Considering FR does a similar sized operation from STN by volume with only 45-50 based (due to there being a lot more non-based flying), this does seem cripplingly inefficient from a LGW perspective.
Two, maybe three overnight elsewhere. I believe the Madrid night stop was part of the deal with MAD based pilots when they closed the base there. Previously there was also a LIN and an INV night stop, but LIN appears to be dropped altogether for the Summer, and the night stop has been replaced by ABZ. Similar to FR at STN, there are a raft of EJU/EZS arrivals that get in after the majority of the first wave has left.
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Old 11th Feb 2022, 06:16
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Officially announced this morning Gatwick South will re-open on March 27th.
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South Terminal

Fantastic to see this finally confirmed! On my recent visit to LGW, I was in South terminal very briefly and it was awful seeing it deserted and devoid of life compared to when I last flew out from there with CX to HKG in February 2020 So it'll be good seeing it come to life again later next month! The terminal page at LGW has also been updated with all South-based airlines moving back, but is missing Scoot; are they likely to be remaining in the North terminal or move South when BKK/SIN recommences?
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Freebird. The carrier had planned a twice-weekly Antalya service from Gatwick commencing in May 2022, but will now offer this four times a week following promising early sales.

Flights will operate on Monday, Tuesday, Saturday and Sunday.

Freebird will also launch a twice-weekly service from Gatwick to Bodrum, also commencing in May, operating on Tuesday and Friday.

This will complement the existing Antalya services from Manchester, already operating twice weekly.

Carl Denton, UK sales representative, said: “Following our launch during the restrictions of the pandemic, we are now very encouraged to see consumer confidence return and bookings pick up.

“In reaction to this we are pleased to have secured the necessary cleared slots at Gatwick to ensure we can meet this demand and grow back the capacity to Turkey.”

He added Freebird was happy to work with agents. “We are keen to engage and encourage travel agents to offer Freebird flights to their clients and also discuss technical solutions to ensure they have the best access to the flights Freebird offers from the UK.”

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/more-t...ing%20Bulletin
Firebird’s prime business for these and Manchester flights are the direct onward connections into and out of Ercan

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Traveling through Gatwick this evening. You’d have thought that, given the misery that the industry has been through that the airport would be pulling out the stops so that now that people are flying again it would be a pleasant experience. So why were there massive queues at security with the x-ray machines repeatedly stopping for several minutes? When we eventually got through I heard one passenger comment “Gatwick’s back to its crappy self”. Difficult to sympathise with airport management complaining about the inconvenience to passengers of the likes of passenger locator forms when they are failing to effectively manage the things they can control.
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Traveling through Gatwick this evening. You’d have thought that, given the misery that the industry has been through that the airport would be pulling out the stops so that now that people are flying again it would be a pleasant experience. So why were there massive queues at security with the x-ray machines repeatedly stopping for several minutes? When we eventually got through I heard one passenger comment “Gatwick’s back to its crappy self”. Difficult to sympathise with airport management complaining about the inconvenience to passengers of the likes of passenger locator forms when they are failing to effectively manage the things they can control.
Unfortunately the old managers with the old mindset are still there, don't know any different. Queues for security are a typical example. Someone on high sets a very loose target that "security queue time should not exceed 20 minutes". This gets interpreted as, providing that it doesn't exceed the 20 minutes, you have Done Your Job. If it's down to 10 minutes you can send a team off for an extra tea break. Builds up again, well, we'll get them back to keep in the limit. This is even before all sorts of gaming the statistics, to show you are within the target. Thoughts of "let's make it a pleasant experience" aren't in the targets set or measured at all.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 21:43
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Maybe there was a fault with the machinery. Generally Gatwick has a good reputation for security queues so maybe your experience was just unfortunate. I personally do not believe
managers deliberately keep queue times up or down.
In the context of the present situation in Europe maybe a wait at security is the least thing to moan about.
I must stress this is just my personal opinion and no offence intended.

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Old 28th Feb 2022, 13:01
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The security queue was horrendous on Saturday morning too. But good to see the terminal bustling with people like mid summer
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 18:19
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Things will probably improve when South Terminal re-opens on March 27th. At the moment North Terminal is operating above capacity
on some days especially during the half term period.
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Gatwick

Emirates have cancelled the planned winter EK12 service that was scheduled to depart at 0940.
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Emirates have cancelled the planned winter EK12 service that was scheduled to depart at 0940.
and Scoot gone too. So much for major travel rebound…
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Any news on China Airlines - London to Taipei service returning to Gatwick?

Not heard any news about Scoot pulling out, but nothing on their website from London is bookable.

I guess it was always inevitable, the long haul routes would be harder to restore than the European ones, and carriers would be focusing on restoring capacity to LHR before LGW, which acts more as an overflow.
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