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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 18:02
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Who is chartering Jet2 to ENF ? In the past it's usually been Enter Air flying people to visit Santa for a day or with a deep desire to go on long trips with huskies... have Enter Air lost the business ?
The area around ENF has a *very* low population density
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 18:06
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Not sure but somebody has clearly and its good that a UK carrier is getting the business after a difficult 2 years. There are just a few ENF's loaded and as you said, they will be Santa trips one imagines. On a bad news day its good to see Jet2 coming to LGW for winter and who knows if this could blossom into something more off the back of today's news.
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 18:31
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yes programme for lgw for the winter
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 18:33
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 18:52
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Neilson have Turin and Toulouse on sale via their website, not sure on the others.
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 19:42
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How exactly is FCO a ski/lapland destination?
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 20:26
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From the Sky report: "...will pursue alternative uses for the London Gatwick short-haul slots."

It doesn't look as though BA is about to gift the LGW market to EZY and WZZ, so some options for IAG are:
Operating a few services as BA mainline with fares to match.
Bringing in an IAG airline to take over some or all the routes, and remember it's not just Vueling, they also now own Air Europa. They could also use Aer Lingus, Iberia Express and/or Iberia mainline.
Leasing the slots out to someone who isn't a challenger, like Jet2.
Putting the BA name on a new franchisee set up to operate the services.
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 21:16
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Is it FDH perhaps? That has been operated in the recent past.
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 21:35
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That's not what it says.
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Old 24th Sep 2021, 07:31
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Has the air europa deal even gone through?
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Old 24th Sep 2021, 07:42
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How many long-haul departures do these flight typically feed? It must be quite a few if it makes sense to BA to offer 300 or so seats from MAN/GLA purely for LGW longhaul feed ( I assume that in the past a lot of non-domestic short-haul flights now axed also provided some feed for the longhaul flights and were not purely P2P)
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Old 24th Sep 2021, 08:14
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It's mainly aimed at LGW-Pakistan for connecting to the Manchester and Glasgow diaspora, PIA were huge at MAN but are currently barred from UK airspace for safety violations.
Quite why BA feel the need to pick up Qatar's dropped LGW route by moving their own LHR service to LGW I genuinely can't guess at.
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Old 24th Sep 2021, 08:29
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I said seasonal charter, ski & lapland. I'm aware there is no skiing in Rome or Santa for that matter. So I guess Rome fits into the seasonal charter bracket, maybe its a private charter for a company, sports related or a short city break. 🙃
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Old 24th Sep 2021, 08:43
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Isn't it a joint venture on LON-DOH between the two so it doesn’t matter who operates it the costs and profits are shared?
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Old 24th Sep 2021, 09:50
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I have some difficulties understanding the wisdom to operate 300 feeder seats from GLA and MAN to LGW just to fill a 400 or so seat aircraft there for a single route...? Wouldn't it make more sense for all involved to do a W-pattern with MAN on alternating days...? Probably it would, but if you are London Airways...
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Old 24th Sep 2021, 10:21
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The same domestics also feed other BA long-hauls at Gatwick including Caribbean, Tampa, Punta Cana, Cancun, MoBay and Kingston. Although Islamabad is presumably important, I can't see this is exclusively to feed Islamabad.
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Old 24th Sep 2021, 11:47
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Before Pakistan went on the red list, BA were, I’m informed, one week away from starting direct MAN-ISB direct. So it may be revisited.
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Old 24th Sep 2021, 21:37
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If they were launching in winter to feed winter sun EDI would surely be back before MAN.
Quite right about LGW-DOH but I don't see the sense in replacing a B788 with a much larger B772 when LHR-DOH isn't even back up to capacity. It's a funny one, maybe home working has allowed some ideas to be piloted that would be dismissed beforehand, or maybe something in the BA/QR codeshare mandates this, scratch that, I have no idea. (The usual then )

BA served MAN-ISB for ages on the B747-200, BA119 / 118 and latterly BA2119 / 2118 (?) were the LGW-MAN-ISB-MAN-LGW rotations, they even had B747-400s into Stand 44 at T3 for a time.
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Old 25th Sep 2021, 09:51
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I think you may be underestimating the number of pax who use the ME3 from MAN to get to the east. BA are trying to get in on the act, finally.
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Emirates back on December 10th. EK15/16 with the 77W.
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