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[The Nutts Mutts]

Have you heard the LH MUC rumour from somewhere else apart from here then? The discussion on here was around BER.

[stewyb]

only further up this thread which mentioned SOU was now showing on Lufthansa’s 2021 flight offers, although currently without a destination. My guess would be MUC if any

[Buster the Bear]

A passenger feed for the cruise departures from Southampton would make sense. Are the operators of cruise liners and airlines that joined up in their thinking?

[SKOJB]

TUI are using BA’s Faro Saturday flights for some of their holidays this summer

[RW20]

Although the above is perfectly reasonable,the reality is that Summer 2021 is a non starter,this is a great shame considering that BA chose SOU for Summer operations of there city fleet.The rapidly mutating virus is set to challenge the world for some time,and as such flying is going to be severely curtailed for this year at least. Regional airports like SOU will struggle to survive,and some I'm sure will not be operational in the next couple of years. The world is under threat with covid,and many airlines and airports will suffer.

[Albert Hall]

Crumbs, you’re a barrel of fun!

I think the BACF flying will do OK this year and sufficiently well to warrant a return for a far stronger year in 2022.

[The Nutts Mutts]

IOM

Isle of Man flights now bookable with Loganair, 3x weekly (Tue, Thur, Sat) on an ATR72 from the 1st of June. Looks like a late morning arrival and lunchtime departure.

[Buster the Bear]

Fares not extortionate either.

[JSCL]

I'm not too convinced by a market in SOU for IOM. I know a big part of the assessment for the route viability on the IOM side has been at a target of the cruise market in particular. With that showing little to no signs of recovery in the next 12 months, I'm not too sure this is the year for IOM-SOU. Then again, SOU seems to be the fastest growing airport in the UK in terms of new routes these days.

[zantopst]

Jet Maintenance at Sou

More good news for Southampton is that Jetworks appear to be relocating from BOH to Southampton. They are using hangar 1 (known locally as the Somers hangar) which normally just houses resident Da900 VP-BPW. First arrival was G-SMHA DA7x yesterday so excellent news to get an established Maintenance firm on site and get some use for that wasted hangar space!

[The Nutts Mutts]

Now that is excellent news. New routes aside, one of SOU's disadvantages in recent years has been its lack of diversified business. Having a based maintenance organisation is really positive and something that the airport hasn't had for at least ten years. The Somers hangar is large and occupies prime real estate, so it's great to finally see it provide more value to the airport than housing a single Falcon.

Is this definitely a relocation or are they opening an additional site at SOU?
Does this mean that Somers are vacating the hangar or will V-PW remain based there?

[zantopst]

It’s a relocation off the operation to Southampton. Not sure about Somers vacating the hangar but I suspect V-PW will remain based as it was already maintained by Jetworks.

[The Nutts Mutts]

Thanks for the reply!

[SKOJB]

BACF pricing seems very competitive if the PMI route is anything to go by. Adult return selling for £270 mid August compared to £380 with RYR from BOH on same dates, know who I would rather fly with!

[horatio_b]

Ryanair flight BOH>PMI departing Fri 13/8 and returning Fri 20/8 is showing as £60/£71 = £131 return

[MARKEYD]

To be fair and I am not a BOH v SOU never have been it’s a ridiculous scenario to get into as both airports complement each other , but I do think you you have to be careful regarding fare comparisons, as we all no they change by the hour

An example tonight
14th Aug to 21st Aug.
Palma no baggage, 1 person

SOU with BA city flyer £ 231
BOH with FR £ 221

[Buster the Bear]

Both are way below what the fares would normally be. August is a month that families get massively ripped off, or did. Do the comparison in a couple of months time, for the same flights, the comparison will be interesting.

I still think that the major issue for travel next summer will be a worldwide standard for a vaccine passport. No way will counties permit entry without double vaccine proof. I hope the airlines, in fact all modes of international transportation come together on a single format.

[adfly]

BA at SOU

With the recent announcement of BA's return to Southampton, that has left me wondering how big an operation BA once had at SOU, and also where they flew. Found an old timetable for W01/02 (not sure if printed pre or post 9/11 though) which must've been near the peak as they had quite a large operation there. I understand from 2003 onwards BA started to cut down their regional operation, before of course flogging what was left off to Flybe in 2006.

For W01/02 it appears they had 4x E145 based (I think these are the only type they used to base in SOU, flight times look right for a jet...) flying the following:

BHD - 1x weekly (Sat)
BRU - 11x weekly
DUB - 17 weekly
EDI - 23 weekly
FRA - 6 weekly
GLA - 23 weekly
JER - 5 weekly (Mon-Fri)

On top of this there was also:

ABZ - 13 weekly (via NCL/LBA)
BHD - 11 weekly DH3? (12 weekly total)
JER - 30 weekly AT7 (35 weekly total)
LBA - 16 weekly J41
MAN - 16 weekly ATP?
NCL - 13 weekly DH3

All in all up to 30 departures on some weekdays. ​​​​​In comparison, some little regional airline called 'British European' could only fly you to Guernsey up to 5 times a day during the same period!

[uptoncol]

Volotea summer 2021

I see all the Volotea’s 717’s have left their fleet now ,
If the holidays do get started later this year ,I wonder if the 319’s will operate this flight but with reduced loads ?
cheers col

[stewyb]

319’s were used in the earlier days of ops from SOU, however rumour is BACF are taking over this summers charter service for TUI and dropping to Sat departure only to PMI!