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Old 20th Apr 2021, 20:02
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updated border document issued , subject to Tynwald approval.

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https://covid19.gov.im/media/1573/exit-framework.pdf
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Old 21st Apr 2021, 10:17
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New Link

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Old 1st May 2021, 21:48
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Loganair have over the last week removed a number of flights from sale for the S21 schedule from the IOM. So far they have made the following changes:

Liverpool - Frequency reduced from up to 20 x Weekly to 2 x Daily

Manchester - Frequency reduced from up to 26 x Weekly to 2 x Daily

Southampton - New 3 x Weekly service is no longer available to book
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Old 2nd May 2021, 10:54
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The Ettyl/Stobart/Flybe/Loganair/Eastern fight is only just about to start. It's going to be messy, bloody and will probably last a year or two until the survivors become apparent. I suspect we'll be either the benefactor af plenty of cheap flights this year or we'll be more likely underserved and ignored.
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Old 2nd May 2021, 11:30
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Left to the clowns in Douglas and the 'Big Girl' it'll be underserved and ignored - but 'open skies' rules OK even if theres nothing in them.
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Old 2nd May 2021, 13:13
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Open Skies

I agree about the clowns and about the 'Big Girl' but otherwise we disagree as my reasons are not your ones - and we are polar opposites on Open Skies so on that we disagree again. Hopefully you will be far less temper tantrumIng and inappropriately rude to me this time. I shall wager you real money that Flybe will not come here unless Loganair left and given that Ettyl and Stobart are about to be the same thing Ettyl will surely be planning to do Dublin - IOM and most probably Carlisle - IOM as they own the former and will be building out a quite serious network from there. Both those routes are non competing so nothing at all to-do with your bottomless hatred of and unproven allegations against Open Skies - an obsession which frankly gets more sad, more boring and more anti the Great Manx Public every time that you repeat it.
SO, the only route with definite competition is likely to be Liverpool where the large cake is more than good enough for both Loganair and easyJet to operate and will continue to serve everyone very well on every metric If the Manx Public felt like you we would hear lots of them saying that they dislike the routes and/ or frequencies and / or prices in the broadcast media and in the print media and of course socially yet none seem to do so except a few sad examples of monopoly Manx Airlines types sentimental for those long gone days - including a certain MHK. Those days are gone for good - sorry to feel so moved to try and bring a dose of realism to your views on this topic.

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Old 2nd May 2021, 13:49
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given that Ettyl and Stobart are about to be the same thing Ettyl will surely be planning to do Dublin - IOM and most probably Carlisle - IOM as they own the former and will be building out a quite serious network from there.
Are there any indications coming out of IOM as to what Ettyl plan to do with Stobart (or CAX?), or are we all just assuming they will be using a post-EIR Stobart for IOM/CAX operations?

When Stobart owned both CAX and Stobart Air, they considered the ATR far too big for CAX operations (but there again, they're hardly the gold standard...)
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Old 2nd May 2021, 17:38
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I think you're presuming that the deal for Ettyl to acquire Stobart Air will actually go through. I've yet to find anyone who believes that will be the case.

Definitely a few interesting months ahead - will be fascinating to watch.
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Old 2nd May 2021, 18:09
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I will keep my ear to the ground in Victoria Street & Athol Street, but the locals will know what it is Iike with skeet!
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Old 2nd May 2021, 18:39
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I had to go back and check what you were on about - and you still sound like a patronizing, pompous, know-it-all.
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Old 3rd May 2021, 07:28
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OPEN SKIES DENIER NONSENSE

Tinwald said: ""you still sound like a patronizing, pompous, know-it-all''

You must mean that I ''still sound like a patronizing, pompous, know-it-all'' because I hold an entirely reasonable but diametrically opposite view to yours on what is in the best interests of the IOM public as regards the Open Skies policy.

When you launch into such flagrantly nasty, intolerant and insulting personal attacks on someone whose views are held by many but are different from yours it begs the questions a) as to any actual merits of your views and b) as to what you are doing on any online discussion forum.

It looks as if you really need to post on one that is available exclusively for yourself so that you can make yourself happy by seeing only echo chambers mirroring the same dogmatic views as your own - because all of them then would be your own!

I can easily and rapidly set-up a forum like that exclusively for you if you like. Free of charge. On the house. As a token of my esteem for you.

Tolerance and acceptance that online forums are for the exchange of a variety of views are obviously very much not within the scope and compass of your limited understanding which is very, very strange for any online forum participant. Even one who obviously thinks himself worthy of the handle 'Tinwald' which implies a self-appointed representative of the Great Manx Public. Now THAT is utterly pompous. And delusional.

Your obsession with killing Open Skies will continue to prove very disappointing to you as it is not going to happen.

I need to say goodbye for now - I have to fly shortly. Literally. Thanks to IOMG's successful policies.

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Old 3rd May 2021, 07:35
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Girls, girls ...... basic rule of PPRuNe - play the ball, not the man.

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Old 3rd May 2021, 07:47
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Flightrider

Fair point! That's what happens to you when you read the Flybe thread....
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