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Old 1st Sep 2021, 14:34
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Heathrow may not be the answer there was nothing wrong with London City it used to work just fine from there. The most important thing is a well timed morning and evening service.
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Old 1st Sep 2021, 16:42
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LCY is rumoured to have some the highest charges around. Regarding your earlier point an E145 will be likely to use more fuel and still under 50 seats so even more costs divided between smaller number of passengers. It’s also not capable of landing at LCY so it would have to go back to the ATR or a Saab.
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 08:02
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I see that EZY have reinstated the 'missing' Tuesday and Wednesday flights for November and are double daily on most other days. Gradually getting back to pre-CoVid frequency, although I appreciate the timings aren't great, and there's no other London options, as yet.
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 08:53
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and plenty of seats available at 22.99 for those who book in advance.
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 13:07
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Thats all very well if you know your travel itinerary several weeks out . It’s a very strange situation where you have some people sat in a plane next to each other one playing 23 and other 500 . Before people reply I fully understand how the algorithm works I just don’t think it’s fair or right . And as I have mentioned before I doubt many people will even pay as little as 23 by the time you have added on for some sort of reasonable sized bag it starts to ratchet up . I think people need to understand that EasyJet are not the only answer for the Isle of Man it needs an early morning and evening flight . It would also be nice to have an airline supporting the local community including pilots and cabin crew rather than only one operator who frankly has very little if any interest in the island .
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 13:37
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Haven't we been round this circle more than enough times already?. If this is what the island needs, it needs to find a way that allows an airline to make a profit. Clearly no airline thinks they can at the moment.
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 13:45
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As I understand this is a forum for sharing views and opinions . As long as it is that I will continue to outline my position and comment on what I see is happening in the same I respect the views of all other members. Hopefully at some point somebody somewhere will wake up and sort out the problem.
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 16:44
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Having followed this thread with interest, some amusement and as an ex operator it strengthens my believe that you cannot please all of the people all of the time!
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 15:59
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It really is fascinating to see how Easyjet operate. They continue to charge very high fares for a return flight from the Isle of Man to London Gatwick one I priced up was 388.00. Then take a look at Jersey they provide up to 3 flights a day from London Gatwick with the fare being for the same equivalent day 160.00! Clearly that's because the Isle of Man flights are near enough at full loads whereas Jerseys aren't which is hardly surprising when the Isle of Man only get one a day from them. Its also fascinating that the times across the week vary considerably ( some morning some evening, some midday) whereas Jersey is more consistent. I wonder why that is.
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 16:34
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I suspect a more consistent offering is due to more consistent passengers. Airlines usually try to meet the demand that exists and perhaps slowly increase upon it over time. Jersey obviously has a customer base which travels more frequently and is more profitable for them. The same reason Jersey gets multiple daily BA mainline service and the IOM doesn’t.
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 17:50
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The whole thing is fascinating. Jersey also get 3 flights a day from British Airways flying into London Heathrow with an early morning off island flight 07.25am. Some days the fare into Heathrow is 23 at relatively short notice. Its amazing what several operators and some competition does isn't it. Maybe its the lack of competition that causes the Easyjet behaviour to the Isle of Man? Its also really interesting that those posters on here who love to sing the praises of Easyjet are relatively quiet at the moment and make no comment about their current fare structure.
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 18:16
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As I mentioned before it may be that Jersey has people willing to pay 500 return for a Club Europe ticket or they are connecting to Business/First flights which more than cover costs but Y class might not have such high demand. There’s a lot more to it than fares on random dates. If BA were not making money on the route they wouldn’t stick around.

We’ve all been over this endless times. If there is business demand for such routes, carriers will add flights. They are not avoiding the IOM for some grudge.
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 18:21
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I am still here and reading but I've got better things to do than select random dates where easyJet will sell me a seat for 20 quid or less. I've also got better things to do than come on a forum moaning about Loganair and their flight times that don't suit me or their prices that I find are too high. Eg. Over 400 for 4 people to go to Edinburgh.

As I say, better things to do

Please excuse me whilst I go and book 8 easyJet flights for an average of 32.
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 18:25
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I don't doubt commercial operators will stick around if they are not making money. But something is odd. And perhaps as I and other posters have suggested the Isle of Man Government have a role to play maybe the Jersey government are doing more to encourage airlines....... just a thought.
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 18:34
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The Jersey frequencies would indicate there is a far greater demand. Furthermore as has been mentioned BA are feeding their other services out of the LHR hub. IOM lost their LHR services a long time ago because there was not the same demand for point to point or inter line traffic as there was for Jersey.
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 20:11
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lfc84

Well please accept my apologies for doing some simple quick research , raising a matter and sharing an opinion that for some people is a real concern. Its great that you have a schedule that allows you to book so far ahead and I assume you don't have the need for a bag because you wont pay an average of 32 if you have even the smallest suitcase. Next time you fly think on that someone has paid Easyjet at least 380 for a seat probably next to you!

Finally such a shame Easyjet don't do Isle of Man to Edinburgh lets see how long it will take them to offer that service shall we!
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 20:20
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Isle of Man to London Gatwick Flight number
EZY852
Departure
09:55 Mon 11th OctArrival 11:10

Your fares
Adult
1 x 19.99

Add a Hands Free bag.7.
56 x 45 x 25 cm

26.99
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 20:45
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Thanks very helpful as you always are! You may also want to look at the 4 days prior to the 11th October which vary from 52.99 and 153.99 one way. And have you checked the size of bag? I have the smallest cabin size suitcase you can buy and it does not meet the Easyjet criteria so good luck travelling with clothes for 7!
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Old 14th Sep 2021, 05:41
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I really don’t see the point in this. If you look at almost any route you will see variations in price. I fly LHR-ARN regularly. Sometimes I’ve paid 80 return and other times Economy seat only tickets have been 800 return or more! I know if i wanted a cheap ticket I had to book in advance. That’s the way tickets work. It’s not like Easyjet start off at 300 one way. They start much lower. If demand rises then of course the price will.

You seem to want some kind of price cap. Lobby your Gov for that. If introduced see if Easyjet stick around. You could end up with no flights to London.

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Old 14th Sep 2021, 08:18
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"I fully understand how the algorithm works I just don’t think it’s fair or right ."

It's basic economics - I'm selling newspapers I'll sell some to people who want them regularly at price A, some to people who decide at the last moment they want one at price B and then, just before the new edition arrives and makes them worthless the rest at price C

Airline tickets are not a basic right - they're a commodity
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