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Old 30th Sep 2021, 12:57
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Vueling to start scheduled flights between CWL and Paris Orly as of 02/11/2021 on Tuesdays and Saturdays.

It has been reported that Vueling have secured slots at ORY resulting in CWL along with BFS, BHX, EDI, GLA & NCL all appearing to have been added after they gained Air France slots at ORY.

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Old 30th Sep 2021, 20:27
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Good news to see Paris back on the departure boards!
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Yeah I agree, let’s hope it gets used and an additional flight be added if that’s the case !! 2 a week is better than nothing……

Same goes for FR and the DUB sector, be great if this got to go daily like it used too with FR.

Just need the JER sector to be filled for next summer.
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Wizz have reinstated the winter seasonal CWL-SSH sector and are due to start 01/11/2022 now instead of this year.

With all the Wizz expansion lately (notably DSA within the U.K.) I wonder if there be more in the pipeline next year for CWL?
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think it’s going to be more of a case of let’s see if they start before we think about expansion. Don’t mean to be all doom and gloom but they’ve not operated a commercial flight from the base yet so let’s see.
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Thats you not because they took the decision to postpone everything until March 2022 due to the pandemic and there is no reason why they are not going ahead with the CWL base.
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Not CWL bashing as I want it to succeed too but you have to be realistic. There are many reasons in business why ventures don’t progress. Airlines don’t exist to start routes to please us enthusiasts, they’re there to make money.

look at the QR flights. They’re postponed but do you realistically see them returning?

W6 will have weighed up the economics of CWL and had the demand been there, flights would now be running. They’re not. So they’re postponed until next year which suggests that demand is not yet there. Why would they expand if demand is not yet there for some of the most popular destinations?
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I get your point but Wizz took the decision to postpone to March 2022 due to the uncertainty on restrictions / red list / requirements which if we go back to the summer when they announced this were all over the place with all airlines cancelling or extending their restrictions. I think it was a wise move to simply postpone to when everything is calmer which should hopefully by March.

It is not only CWL for Wizz but also DSA & LGW were all affected so guess time will tell.

the destinations offered by Wizz are safe and sensible (maybe not SSH unless people want the guaranteed sun) but now with a date confirmed and hopefully with a big marketing push by both Wizz and CWL bookings should gradually increase…..all being well.
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I do realistically expect QR to return at some point…
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Yeah I agree…..the loads were steadily picking up prior to Covid so hope they do too. Then again many people said it would never last but it did and it would still be operating in a non-Covid world.

Lets hope they do return at some point in the future and I’m sure CWL management will work their best at this.
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The demand isn't there because of the pandemic and travel restrictions hence why they made the wise decision imo to postpone until March 2022. As for expansion we don't know what they have planned but their CEO is quoted as saying it's not likely that they'll stay at 1 aircraft because 1 aircraft bases aren't economical.
As for Qatar Airways we can just hope they do come back but realistically we can't really expect any return to be in 2022.
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Old 14th Oct 2021, 20:00
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Not sure if any of you will remember the Airports UK Timetables book that used to come out each year but I really liked it. I've kind of made one for CWL for next year. Its not 100% complete (flight numbers and some A/C types missing) but I've attached it below if anyone is interested. If you have the missing info, I can send the excel copy for you to update. Obviously all subject to change. Interesting that the winter only ACE flight with W6 will operate until 10/06.
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CWL Summer 2022 v2.pdf (72.9 KB, 53 views)
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That’s great seeing it all like on paper mate, interesting to see AYT as TBA, guess this maybe Freebird again.

I’d have thought Wizz would do ACE year round too, obvs something is scheduled to take it place…maybe another TBA destination or an additional flight to somewhere they already lab to serve just for the peak season.

You’ve missed off the new Vueling ORY flights.

Really good spreadsheet though so happy to let you know if I hear or find out anything else for it.
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Old 14th Oct 2021, 20:55
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yeah the ORY flights aren’t bookable it seems for June next year. Just did a random search. Will get the added when released.

Seeing it on paper makes you realise the hole that BE have left in the departures. We’re averaging 11 departures and 11 arrivals a day next summer so far.

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Deffo pretty sad really, BE certainly filled the departure board big time. But as someone said earlier Wizz have always commented they don’t like a one aircraft base so maybe CWL are working on that…..hopefully.

Wish we still had Air Wales now as most of these old BE destinations would be well suited to them !!
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Old 14th Oct 2021, 21:29
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I believe Heraklion or Corfu fills the gap between June and October.
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Old 14th Oct 2021, 21:31
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Heraklion replaces ACE in June for the summer.
Corfu also starts mid June but up until then there's just a gap in the schedule on Tuesdays and Saturdays mornings. You'd think Wizz would fill the gap with extra Malaga or Faro or somewhere similar.
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Interview: Wizz Air?s Marion Geoffroy | Travel Weekly

CWL mentioned by Wizz again and that the U.K. is their biggest market and hope to expand….

Also confirmed they will be starting CWL as planned in April.
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Seems that Eastern Airway flights from SOU and CWL to BHD flights will change again on the 28th Oct
x4 days a week

07:30 CWL-BHD 08:50

09:25 SOU-BHD 11:00

11:30 SOU-BHD 13:05

13:45 BHD-CWL 15:05

This will be on a BeA Jetstream 41
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Cardiff - Anglesey PSO route said to be "under review"
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...e-under-review
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