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Old 1st May 2023, 11:28
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Busy bank holiday Monday at Southend. The airport’s losses must be mounting daily so how long can this carry on?

Even worse, due to the French, it departed nearly 3 hours late so no doubt some overtime has been worked. The good news is that all other departures today are unaffected.
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
Even worse, due to the French, it departed nearly 3 hours late so no doubt some overtime has been worked. The good news is that all other departures today are unaffected.
I suspect from experience the pax were boarded and they awaited clearance in which case overtime would have been limited. On the other hand if pax were stuck in the terminal some money could have been made on extra bar sales
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Old 1st May 2023, 12:59
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Is the Bar open yet, Airport Web site says:
"Pleased to announce that WHSmith, World Duty Free and The Pilot Bar will reopen from early May - SKYCAFÉ is now open."?
Maybe a few extra coffees and pastries.
I believe they do have a small fridge though with a handful of bottles in it.
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Old 1st May 2023, 13:08
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Originally Posted by pabely
Is the Bar open yet, Airport Web site says:
"Pleased to announce that WHSmith, World Duty Free and The Pilot Bar will reopen from early May - SKYCAFÉ is now open."?
Maybe a few extra coffees and pastries.
I believe they do have a small fridge though with a handful of bottles in it.
WH Smith and Duty Free opened today, sadly the bar closed until Wednesday.

Goes to prove that you don’t necessarily need a range of airside outlets. The flight was sold out.
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Old 1st May 2023, 13:27
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And how much did the airport make? The airside outlets aren't for the passengers benefit...
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Old 1st May 2023, 13:49
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And how much did the airport make? The airside outlets aren't for the passengers benefit...
My unreliable source tells me the collection tins were full.
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Only 25 seats left for Wednesdays flight to Palma Not bad for only the 2nd flight
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Old 24th May 2023, 07:05
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Amsterdam and Faro re-launch today.

One to watch is the announcement by EZY of a base in Alicante.

The seat map currently shows 130 seats occupied to AMS, 39 on the return. FAO outbound has 174, inbound about 100.

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Old 24th May 2023, 21:49
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Winter 23/24 flights and a new route now on sale - the return of CDG on Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun
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Old 25th May 2023, 13:25
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Does anyone know what happened to Air Horizont and their two based aircraft?
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Old 25th May 2023, 13:32
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
Winter 23/24 flights and a new route now on sale - the return of CDG on Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun
Am I right in thinking the bucket & spade routes are summer only?

if that’s the case that leaves four flights a week to Paris and a one-off charter day trip to Lapland?

How deep are the owners pockets?

Doncaster couldn’t survive with more flights than that in a day.

Unless something changes or someone has money to burn, how does Southend stay open?
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Originally Posted by pamann
Am I right in thinking the bucket & spade routes are summer only?

if that’s the case that leaves four flights a week to Paris and a one-off charter day trip to Lapland
Correct for now although further routes have been strongly hinted. EZY new routes are normally released in batches. I would not be surprised to see Geneva return, and possibly Lyon given it was a previous ski season route and a base.

AMS isn’t currently on sale but again I wouldn’t be surprised to see it added in due course.
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Any amount of EZY away based flying as a stand-alone is not going to financially support the airport for long. They desperately require some basing by airlines that will provide regular footfall and will spend ancillary money at the car parks and terminal outlets
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Old 25th May 2023, 19:12
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DC3 Dave Air Horizont Due in tomorrow from PALMA MALLORCA
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Old 25th May 2023, 19:59
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Originally Posted by mikkie4
DC3 Dave Air Horizont Due in tomorrow from PALMA MALLORCA
Thank you Mikkie. I thought they might have deserted us and we don’t need that!
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When do the ALICANTE EZY based flights go on sale? fingers crossed that SEN is one of the destinations


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Originally Posted by mikkie4
When do the ALICANTE EZY based flights go on sale? fingers crossed that SEN is one of the destinations
Some time yet before tickets as Alicante will be another of their seasonal bases commencing summer 2024. I guess an announcement will be timed as EZY see fit (fingers crossed).
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Old 26th May 2023, 13:47
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
Any amount of EZY away based flying as a stand-alone is not going to financially support the airport for long. They desperately require some basing by airlines that will provide regular footfall and will spend ancillary money at the car parks and terminal outlets
I think EZY basing aircraft again is very much on the cards but they have chosen a different way of getting there. That is surely where CDG and AMS come in. Add Jersey if aircraft are based at SEN and you will have the beginning of the ability to do the required 3 rotations a day (one has to be a short hop because of the restricted hours)

Cannot see it happening next year but this is not random activity by EZY. If numbers work out then base possible. If they do not then choose what existing routes you wish to keep if any.

So, not exactly high risk for the airline, but a world of pain for the airport if it does not work out. So I absolutely agree they need some based aircraft by others at SEN soon, so long as the routes operated do not kill off the interest from the airline with the ability to lay the orange egg.

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Assuming that EZY are planning a base eventually, can the airport sustain the losses till then, and if a base does open, will they be able to make money out of EZY?
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Old 26th May 2023, 14:36
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Assuming that EZY are planning a base eventually, can the airport sustain the losses till then, and if a base does open, will they be able to make money out of EZY?
I would suggest that the likelihood is that SEN will have been sold by the time that happens and one would expect Esken to have absorbed future losses until any sale occurs. Probably the saleability of SEN and/or the price achieved could very well hinge, at least in part, on EZY having made a decision to re-open their SEN base or not.
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