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Old 18th Mar 2023, 21:55
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Old 19th Mar 2023, 08:27
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That’s actually quite interesting as it presumably means they’re expecting a winter programme. Doubt taking the terminal out of mothballs and getting in the staff in would be worth it for a one-off.
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Old 19th Mar 2023, 08:41
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That’s actually quite interesting as it presumably means they’re expecting a winter programme. Doubt taking the terminal out of mothballs and getting in the staff in would be worth it for a one-off.
You are applying logic to the situation - this is Esken...
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Old 19th Mar 2023, 08:55
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You are applying logic to the situation - this is Esken...
SEN will have new owners well before December 2024 no doubt. It's who they will be and what plans they will have which will be of importance.
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Old 19th Mar 2023, 11:01
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I find SEN quite an interesting airport - they have gone from being really quite busy pre Covid to barely anything.

Is the airport ever likely to recover to what it once was? Easyjet appear to be dipping their toe again but I imagine there is a lot of cost at maintaining border control, airport handling staff for passenger operations etc for such a minimal list of destinations and frequency?
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Old 19th Mar 2023, 12:13
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We're Esken actually making money when the throughput was 2M? We know RYR would screw any airport down to almost zero cost or you pay us.
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Old 23rd Mar 2023, 11:32
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When the Business Development Director of the airport believes that Groningen is a French city I wonder if there is much hope left anymore.

I would like to think he was misquoted.

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/234...h-city-dinard/
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Old 23rd Mar 2023, 15:18
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I'm sure that Expressflight will clarify, but isn't this going back to one of the original Stobart concepts - offer a London destination to those secondary cities that don't have a London service.

The big question is who would operate such flights, the pool of candidates is a lot smaller (I know, they could start their own.... )
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Old 23rd Mar 2023, 16:48
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
I'm sure that Expressflight will clarify, but isn't this going back to one of the original Stobart concepts - offer a London destination to those secondary cities that don't have a London service.

The big question is who would operate such flights, the pool of candidates is a lot smaller (I know, they could start their own.... )
Yes, apart from Dinard (which was a RYR route to STN) all the others were operated by Stobart Air under a Flybe franchise until Esken decided to close down STK. As you say "who would (now) operate such flights" there being a greater scarcity of suitable small operators than ever before. They would though make up a viable network so could possibly interest an existing operator in basing an aircraft at SEN, although adding another route or three (like Strasbourg?) could keep two aircraft busy and give more flexibility. I'm sure all the possible candidates will be approached.
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Old 23rd Mar 2023, 17:15
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I thought Dinard CCI / local Govt decided that it wasn't worth subsidising the airport to the level required to retain Ryanair, and made many of the airport staff redundant. St Malo is just across the harbour and has regular and very large ferries to Portsmouth and Poole - the local council decided this was a better way to attract UK-resident tourists
Last summer, the doors of Dinard's terminal were locked and the lights turned off - it felt very much like a general aviation aerodrome rather than an airport. The only "scheduled" flights to Deauville + Geneva that took place were classed as private flights. Deauville, relatively nearby, is about to open a brand new arrivals terminal - the new departures section will (I think) open in 2024. Brest, Rennes and Caen nearby are all properly open, fully functioning and equipped to handle passenger flights from the UK. Even Cherbourg airport (at a push) currently has the ability to handle an A320/B737 as long as it's not when the UK ferry is in port.
St Malo is a beautiful town, while Dinard across the harbour has a wonderful beach - both are lovely to visit in summer. I would happily buy a ticket from London to Dinard... but will Dinard's terminal really be re-opened and staff hired along with all the formalities needed for a Schengen border for a handful of prop flights to Southend ?!?!

Separately - the Echo article quotes Nigel Mayes as saying Rennes no longer has service to London. Easyjet flying from Gatwick may have a different opinion.
The Echo article makes me think somebody at SEN has had an idea, and decided the first thing to do is tell the news media all about it before checking whether the idea is feasible

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Old 28th Mar 2023, 10:17
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Summer 2023 is almost with us. Right now it is all hands to the pump in the terminal: floors being polished, shelves being stacked with drink and snacks airside. CEO John Upton is no doubt checking that each cubicle has an adequate supply of toilet paper for all those nervous tummies.

In the morning the queue for the car parks, the fight to exit the train with bulging cases before the doors start to close leaving poor Johnny or Kevin left behind. Come on, hurry up! they all mutter waiting in line to hand over their baggage. That nagging doubt, Is that our flight number - is this the right desk?

Time pressing now, squeezing through security. At last! A heaving horde of humanity wandering headless in departures. If only they would display our gate number we could start to relax.

It sure feels good to be back.

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Old 28th Mar 2023, 17:17
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
Summer 2023 is almost with us. Right now it is all hands to the pump in the terminal: floors being polished, shelves being stacked with drink and snacks airside. CEO John Upton is no doubt checking that each cubicle has an adequate supply of toilet paper for all those nervous tummies.

In the morning the queue for the car parks, the fight to exit the train with bulging cases before the doors start to close leaving poor Johnny or Kevin left behind. Come on, hurry up! they all mutter waiting in line to hand over their baggage. That nagging doubt, Is that our flight number - is this the right desk?

Time pressing now, squeezing through security. At last! A heaving horde of humanity wandering headless in departures. If only they would display our gate number we could start to relax.

It sure feels good to be back.

According to easyJet only 1 cafe be open!
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 17:27
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The first two outbounds are full and the third next week has limited seats at high cost. Perhaps EZY were too quick to reduce the schedule all those months ago.
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Old 29th Mar 2023, 20:16
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I can count 11 airport workers in this screen shot. I wonder what Easyjet is paying for this flight to be handled yesterday and what did they do for the rest of their shift.

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Old 29th Mar 2023, 21:27
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Actually I can now count 12 as one is almost hiding behind a black pillar and two are almost merged but are wearing different coloured hi viz
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Old 29th Mar 2023, 22:24
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Have you missed one at the top of the strange steps!!
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 02:17
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Well spotted, that makes 13.
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 06:26
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Well spotted, that makes 13.
I would imagine that many of them would be trainees, experiencing the real thing for the first time.
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Like drinking tea between random movements. Sounds like the perfect job.
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Hands in pockets talking they look well trained.
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