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Yeah, having to take a lateral flow test before travelling within the CTA really is so prohibitive to travel: https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles...on-travel-area
Also, the ten seconds it takes to show proof of vaccination to gain entry to pubs/restaurants would really ruin a trip away.
As for the rules: they’ve been pretty static since before Christmas.
Also, the ten seconds it takes to show proof of vaccination to gain entry to pubs/restaurants would really ruin a trip away.
As for the rules: they’ve been pretty static since before Christmas.
Be as sarcastic as you like. It DOES put travellers off booking. That's the reality. Especially with additional rules at destination, such as those restricting access to restaurants etc. Destinations which cling to covid theatre will lose out to those which return to their senses sooner.
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To answer that argument, since the rule change announcement easyJet bookings up 200% and some destinations 400% up, Virgin Atlantic 150%, BA holidays 40%.
If the rules weren't affecting bookings then why the sudden uplift?
If the rules weren't affecting bookings then why the sudden uplift?
Apples and oranges - the discussion was about the rules on travel from GB to Northern Ireland.
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ORY in UK now ?
Testing on domestic flights was only ever recommended, never compulsory but during lockdown travel was only allowed for specific reasons.Since then only a recommendation, not compulsory.
Testing on domestic flights was only ever recommended, never compulsory but during lockdown travel was only allowed for specific reasons.Since then only a recommendation, not compulsory.
No spat here. Just pointing out that underlying demand for routes will only become apparent once covid barriers are removed completely. There is a substantial cohort of travellers who will NOT book travel until they're no longer a concern.
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Nice response too!
On the point of ORY I have to say this is the third attempt at a Belfast route from Vueling, and again not a lot of awareness, and the timings are poor, although not entirely useless.
I daresay the French ban on the majority of UK inbound passengers last month won't have helped.
Domestically I've only seen airports and airlines enforcement of mask wearing really plus hygiene, hand sanitizer etc - no other checks.
On the point of ORY I have to say this is the third attempt at a Belfast route from Vueling, and again not a lot of awareness, and the timings are poor, although not entirely useless.
I daresay the French ban on the majority of UK inbound passengers last month won't have helped.
Domestically I've only seen airports and airlines enforcement of mask wearing really plus hygiene, hand sanitizer etc - no other checks.
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“Covid barriers”? A lateral flow test which takes 30 minutes, and is advised rather than being mandatory? If you’re bimbling around your day-to-day life without regularly checking if you’ve asymptotic Covid-19, then it’s probably best you stay off planes.
Cuthere - You continue to attack the messenger rather than the issue at hand. A substantial cohort of customers will not book flights until covid theatre is completely swept away. Tests, masks in airports and aboard aircraft, extra paperwork, fiddly phone apps (particularly worrisome for the elderly) remain major stumbling blocks. That's a fact, and if you don't believe it, take a look at the stats.
Since you seem keen to dismiss me personally for "bimbling around" etc., I'm happy to confirm that I flew eight times as SLF in 2021, but chose from destinations which presented the least covid hassle and risk of late rule changes. BFS didn't make the cut on that score, and Northern Ireland DID change their rules again - so I was right. Meanwhile, I had several other flights booked in 2021, but the eight I did get to fly on were those which survived cancellation by the airline. So I personally will take extra measures to ensure that I can travel, but many others will not. I've very recently had MAN-ORK-MAN flights cancelled by Ryanair for next week. We're not out of this yet.
I also book flights on behalf of a neighbour who regularly visited friends in County Antrim; she has chosen not to travel for over two years now because she fears the hassle implied. Her friend has not flown the other way either. I ask her when she wants to book again, and she says "not yet".
I have now set up covid-pass phone apps for three different near-neighbours to enable them to fly out to visit grandchildren etc (word gets around that I have done this for one, and others come forward to ask!). They're very apprehensive, but they're prepared to go through with it to see the kids again. But ask them about a discretionary holiday, and they don't want to know. Too much risk of things going wrong. They'd be "too nervous to enjoy it".
That's the reality out there. Be as dismissive as you like. Being in denial doesn't change it.
Since you seem keen to dismiss me personally for "bimbling around" etc., I'm happy to confirm that I flew eight times as SLF in 2021, but chose from destinations which presented the least covid hassle and risk of late rule changes. BFS didn't make the cut on that score, and Northern Ireland DID change their rules again - so I was right. Meanwhile, I had several other flights booked in 2021, but the eight I did get to fly on were those which survived cancellation by the airline. So I personally will take extra measures to ensure that I can travel, but many others will not. I've very recently had MAN-ORK-MAN flights cancelled by Ryanair for next week. We're not out of this yet.
I also book flights on behalf of a neighbour who regularly visited friends in County Antrim; she has chosen not to travel for over two years now because she fears the hassle implied. Her friend has not flown the other way either. I ask her when she wants to book again, and she says "not yet".
I have now set up covid-pass phone apps for three different near-neighbours to enable them to fly out to visit grandchildren etc (word gets around that I have done this for one, and others come forward to ask!). They're very apprehensive, but they're prepared to go through with it to see the kids again. But ask them about a discretionary holiday, and they don't want to know. Too much risk of things going wrong. They'd be "too nervous to enjoy it".
That's the reality out there. Be as dismissive as you like. Being in denial doesn't change it.
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I am sure there are passengers like me who were tiring of the airport experience already, and adding testing to the list of things to remember was the straw that broke the camels back.
My last trip to Scotland, normally by air, was by train even though it cost more. The day time services by rail were fully booked.
"Rail and Sail" to Ireland was already broken so was never that much competition but I can confirm that I know lots of people who won't fly until the experience is easier
My last trip to Scotland, normally by air, was by train even though it cost more. The day time services by rail were fully booked.
"Rail and Sail" to Ireland was already broken so was never that much competition but I can confirm that I know lots of people who won't fly until the experience is easier
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Mask-on and the hope you don’t infect a vulnerable member of the populace with Covid.
Christ. I think I’ll stick to BHD-EXT rather than BFS-BRS when I can, Blackfriar.
Sealink: “adding testing was the straw that broke the camel’s back”. I mean…..the balloons on this thread. YOU SHOULD BE TESTING BEFORE YOU LEAVE YOUR HOUSE, NEVER MIND BEFORE YOU GET AS FAR AS FLYING.
Almost two years later…….if you guys can’t be arsed with experts, I’d suggest you ask the guys and girls up front to let you have a go flying the plane next time you’re on one.
Christ. I think I’ll stick to BHD-EXT rather than BFS-BRS when I can, Blackfriar.
Sealink: “adding testing was the straw that broke the camel’s back”. I mean…..the balloons on this thread. YOU SHOULD BE TESTING BEFORE YOU LEAVE YOUR HOUSE, NEVER MIND BEFORE YOU GET AS FAR AS FLYING.
Almost two years later…….if you guys can’t be arsed with experts, I’d suggest you ask the guys and girls up front to let you have a go flying the plane next time you’re on one.
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The Air Finance Journal conference is taking place in Dublin in May. This is a big conference for leasing companies and airlines. It normally happens in January but I think it was postponed because of COVID.
Apparently I am not allowed to post URL links but if you google "Airfinance Journal Conference Dublin" you can easily find the agenda.
You can see from this that on May 5 there is an "elevator pitch breakfast" with Conor McCarthy, CEO of Emerald Airways, and Andrew Pyne, CEO of Fly Atlantic. It says that Andrew Pyne "started the Fly Atlantic project in early 2021, with the goal of launching the airline in 2023."
When you search for "Fly Atlantic" on the Companies House website, you find that its registered office is "Medway Building, Belfast International Airport, Belfast, County Antrim, Northern Ireland, BT29 4AB" and its business is "51101 - Scheduled passenger air transport".
Anyone know what this is about?
Apparently I am not allowed to post URL links but if you google "Airfinance Journal Conference Dublin" you can easily find the agenda.
You can see from this that on May 5 there is an "elevator pitch breakfast" with Conor McCarthy, CEO of Emerald Airways, and Andrew Pyne, CEO of Fly Atlantic. It says that Andrew Pyne "started the Fly Atlantic project in early 2021, with the goal of launching the airline in 2023."
When you search for "Fly Atlantic" on the Companies House website, you find that its registered office is "Medway Building, Belfast International Airport, Belfast, County Antrim, Northern Ireland, BT29 4AB" and its business is "51101 - Scheduled passenger air transport".
Anyone know what this is about?
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Mask-on and the hope you don’t infect a vulnerable member of the populace with Covid.
Christ. I think I’ll stick to BHD-EXT rather than BFS-BRS when I can, Blackfriar.
Sealink: “adding testing was the straw that broke the camel’s back”. I mean…..the balloons on this thread. YOU SHOULD BE TESTING BEFORE YOU LEAVE YOUR HOUSE, NEVER MIND BEFORE YOU GET AS FAR AS FLYING.
Almost two years later…….if you guys can’t be arsed with experts, I’d suggest you ask the guys and girls up front to let you have a go flying the plane next time you’re on one.
Christ. I think I’ll stick to BHD-EXT rather than BFS-BRS when I can, Blackfriar.
Sealink: “adding testing was the straw that broke the camel’s back”. I mean…..the balloons on this thread. YOU SHOULD BE TESTING BEFORE YOU LEAVE YOUR HOUSE, NEVER MIND BEFORE YOU GET AS FAR AS FLYING.
Almost two years later…….if you guys can’t be arsed with experts, I’d suggest you ask the guys and girls up front to let you have a go flying the plane next time you’re on one.
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Jet2 says that they have more capacity on sale from Belfast in 2022 than they had in 2019. So do they go back to 4 based units this summer? I see they are still operating 3.