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I am sure the Labour controlled council will come under 'Special Measures' soon. Then maybe the stories of alleged corruption will unravel, or not.
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The Southend application that was turned down for a 132 bedroom hotel because it only had 45 car parking spaces reminds me of the last planning application for a new airport hotel at Luton. The Luton one, which was approved has 171 bedrooms and only around 36 parking spaces or 86 if the parking spaces of the joining hotel are shared, which is a similar sized hotel.
https://planning.luton.gov.uk/online...iveTab=summary
Anyway more important things need to be mentioned. I wish my greatest fan Lee Baker Street a Merry Christmas, as I do everyone here who takes the time to either just read this thread or has the passion to contribute. I always enjoy reading every comment.
I will close by letting my fan club of one wonder whereabouts I took this photo and was I even allowed?
https://planning.luton.gov.uk/online...iveTab=summary
Anyway more important things need to be mentioned. I wish my greatest fan Lee Baker Street a Merry Christmas, as I do everyone here who takes the time to either just read this thread or has the passion to contribute. I always enjoy reading every comment.
I will close by letting my fan club of one wonder whereabouts I took this photo and was I even allowed?
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At least 20 Christmas Day cancellations with 4 departures. Wizz might not be happy but their flight crews will be. Merry Xmas to everyone working today.
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I took this photo on May 24th 2016, which is over four and a half years ago of David Cameron campaigning at Luton Airport to remain in the EU but some people have still not got over the result. Well it has happened so get over your disappointment that the UK didn't follow France, the Netherlands and Ireland in holding second EU referendums when the result did not go the EU's way.
If we are to keep this thread on track maybe it is worth looking at exactly where Luton will find the extra passengers needed to get the airport to 32million now that we are finally out?
Maybe airport pay rates will start to rise in real terms in the next few years rather than being suppressed with limitless amounts of cheap labour. Maybe school leavers will once again get proper four year apprenticeships rather than the UK importing skills? Maybe Wizz UK will start to employ UK crews to UK registered aircraft at Luton rather than undercutting Easyjet with cheap labour seeing that UK unemployment is growing due to Covid.
If we are to keep this thread on track maybe it is worth looking at exactly where Luton will find the extra passengers needed to get the airport to 32million now that we are finally out?
Maybe airport pay rates will start to rise in real terms in the next few years rather than being suppressed with limitless amounts of cheap labour. Maybe school leavers will once again get proper four year apprenticeships rather than the UK importing skills? Maybe Wizz UK will start to employ UK crews to UK registered aircraft at Luton rather than undercutting Easyjet with cheap labour seeing that UK unemployment is growing due to Covid.
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May 2021 mark the unravelling of the alleged Borough Council/Airport incestual affair?
It will also be interesting to see if the UK immigration points system affects Wizzair core market?
TUI and easyJet are now even more debt leveraged after massive injections of cash to keep them alive.
Airports will have to raise fees to pay for increased borrowings and fares will have to rise to service new debt levels. This may well be delayed into 2022. Will the market sustain those increases especially if the the effect of quantitative easing (inflation) is beginning to blight the economy and unemployment remains scarily high?
More importantly, let us all hope that Covid-19 does not mutate to make current vaccines mostly useless, and still remain a killer. Friends of mine still refuse to believe me when I told them after the twin vaccinations, you can still contract Covid-19 plus have symptoms and then be contagious!
There will be pent up demand from folk desperate to travel, from refund vouchers and cash compensation being reused from 2019.
Far too many unknowns to predict the next 12 to 18 months.
A certainty is that airlines and airports will need to borrow more to see them through, but at what point do they become unviable..............
It will also be interesting to see if the UK immigration points system affects Wizzair core market?
TUI and easyJet are now even more debt leveraged after massive injections of cash to keep them alive.
Airports will have to raise fees to pay for increased borrowings and fares will have to rise to service new debt levels. This may well be delayed into 2022. Will the market sustain those increases especially if the the effect of quantitative easing (inflation) is beginning to blight the economy and unemployment remains scarily high?
More importantly, let us all hope that Covid-19 does not mutate to make current vaccines mostly useless, and still remain a killer. Friends of mine still refuse to believe me when I told them after the twin vaccinations, you can still contract Covid-19 plus have symptoms and then be contagious!
There will be pent up demand from folk desperate to travel, from refund vouchers and cash compensation being reused from 2019.
Far too many unknowns to predict the next 12 to 18 months.
A certainty is that airlines and airports will need to borrow more to see them through, but at what point do they become unviable..............
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The airport has less cancellations today so Luton is a little busier but overall the figures are well down on what was expected only 2 weeks ago. The figure expected 2 weeks ago for Christmas was only a fraction of what passed through Luton last Christmas so things are rather grim.
Border Force say they are ready for January 1st with lines being divided into 2 rather than 3 with EU nationals joining the rest of the world queue.
I just want to add that I found some of the posts in recent days appalling that was started by someone who wanted to provoke a reaction that had nothing to do with the airport so I am glad to see the moderator taking action.
Border Force say they are ready for January 1st with lines being divided into 2 rather than 3 with EU nationals joining the rest of the world queue.
I just want to add that I found some of the posts in recent days appalling that was started by someone who wanted to provoke a reaction that had nothing to do with the airport so I am glad to see the moderator taking action.
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Is this actually the case? I was under the impression the queues would stay as they are with the UK / EU / selected Western nations outside of the EU remaining in the same queue and everyone else in the other?
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Luton airport Covid test prices to be carried out in the mid term car park. Add to that the price of the airline ticket and it will put some people off when the test could cost more than the ticket. Also a fail will result in a no show so a loss of the the break/ holiday and probably no refunds.
- A LAMP test is 79 GBP per person
- A PCR test is 99 GBP per person
- An Antigen test is 50 GBP per person
- An Antibody test is 40 GBP per person
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Just done a check in Stansted & Heathrow web sites and identical prices, so that's the price and will not affect your choice of departure airport, what did make me laugh was the Ryanair advert encouraging you to book for Easter, really......
MOL come back to me at Easter to even consider anything later in the year, even with tempting low prices. You should be budgeting for S21 being a rightoff as well and if things do drastically change then it is a bonus.
MOL come back to me at Easter to even consider anything later in the year, even with tempting low prices. You should be budgeting for S21 being a rightoff as well and if things do drastically change then it is a bonus.
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Heathrow passengers will be wealthier than Luton’s bargain hunters but then most people should not be travelling without good reason anyway.
I think the testing is all done by the same company which explains the same price.
I think the testing is all done by the same company which explains the same price.
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Thats the same risks for all airlines/airports not just Luton. If people are bold enough to try booking a flight in the first place, i don't think these prices/risks will put people jeff booking
Thats the same risks for all airlines/airports not just Luton. If people are bold enough to try booking a flight in the first place, i don't think these prices/risks will put people jeff booking
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I see there was a TUI Belgium Dreamliner in late on Tuesday from Brussels. Only stopped for about 90 minutes and left on a Ferry number so guessing a cargo charter.
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I think it went to Paris Vatry if I remember, whether it picked up cargo at Luton or required a quick mod by engineers, I don't know.
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Tfl - Transport for London are adding Thameslink route to all stations maps in zones 1 - 6 and associated web sites, will highlight even more Airports connectivity to London.
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Not only Thamelink but also the non stop East Midland Trains route from Parkway to St Pancras is also shown as a separate route in light blue.
The appearances on the map are only temporary due to Covid. Also worth remembering that unlike Gatwick the Oyster card can’t be used at Parkway so an additional ticket would need purchasing for rail travel into and out of London. Also no deal has yet been reached with the airport over the Dart link so a separate ticket could be needed for that part of the journey as well. At the moment Thamelink are charged a fee for the shuttle bus using the airports bus station. Now it looks like the airport could be charged a fee by Thamelink for issuing a through ticket. That is assuming a deal can be reached.
Finally the game changer should be when Crossrail opens in 2022 but then the improved connectivity will also apply to other London Airports. The journey time from Farringdon for Luton and Gatwick to Liverpool Street for Stansted and Southend is cut to just 2 minutes.
The appearances on the map are only temporary due to Covid. Also worth remembering that unlike Gatwick the Oyster card can’t be used at Parkway so an additional ticket would need purchasing for rail travel into and out of London. Also no deal has yet been reached with the airport over the Dart link so a separate ticket could be needed for that part of the journey as well. At the moment Thamelink are charged a fee for the shuttle bus using the airports bus station. Now it looks like the airport could be charged a fee by Thamelink for issuing a through ticket. That is assuming a deal can be reached.
Finally the game changer should be when Crossrail opens in 2022 but then the improved connectivity will also apply to other London Airports. The journey time from Farringdon for Luton and Gatwick to Liverpool Street for Stansted and Southend is cut to just 2 minutes.
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Seems that the airport has found a new money stream as much of the mid term car park has been turned into a van park of various sizes, models and manufacturers.
The Covid test before you travel facility that also shares the same car park is getting busier.
The Covid test before you travel facility that also shares the same car park is getting busier.
