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Old 15th Mar 2023, 19:46
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Originally Posted by P330
They are really ramping up the fleet. Wonder if this is all growth or whether we will see some retirements soon?
I'd venture a bit of both. All the latest acquisitions, whether brand new or used, will allow for the gradual withdrawal of the 733 fleet and eventually the 757s as well. There will also be opportunities to return the older, leased 738s to the lessors. I expect more than enough newbies to cover expansion and retirements.
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Old 15th Mar 2023, 22:17
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It's all very interesting. It would appear (so far) that Jet2 might be looking at a dual 737/A2*N fleet in the longer term.

Obviously there will be the retirements of the 733's and 752's as well as older 738's one would assume. There are 24 738's over 20 years of age and another 12 in their late teens. On a very base level, without looking at individual cycles, hours, ownership, airframe defects, major checks etc. etc. etc. that's 51 aircraft that would look to be in the firing line by the end of the decade. I reckon we'll see a number of these 738's hit their 30's in service with Jet2.

Will we see Jet2 buying up second hand A320 and A321ceo's down the line? Are we going to see the fleet increase to 150-200 as we approach 2030? I'd say that would be almost inevitable if a reasonable amount of Gatwick slots are sourced.

I do believe the future looks bright for the plucky little northerners.
With only 3 A321ceo with 220 seats they will either have to increase the numbers or remove them as a sub fleet of 3 can't help with scheduling.

Makes sense to pick up newer used 738s when available if they can at a good price to allow for the retirement / removal of some of the older frames whilst increasing in house capacity rather than relying on ACMI for peak season.
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Old 15th Mar 2023, 22:18
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Will we see Jet2 buying up second hand A320 and A321ceo's down the line?
No. Think about it!

One thing about Jet2 - 'Softly softly catchy monkey. Tables have been turned due to................................................

TUI have been caught out, and are playing the catch up game.

I have no affiliation to either airline!

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Old 15th Mar 2023, 23:47
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Never say never. Jet2 planned a more substantial subfleet of A321ceo's from TCX and as mentioned, they have a rather inconvenient 3 as it stands.

Whilst I agree that used 738's do make an awful lot of sense and are probably coming at a very good price with plenty of availability on the second hand market, once newer generation, particularly sharkletted CFM A320/321ceo's start getting retired in larger numbers and the fleet of neo's grows, I can see room for those frames. After all, they do need something more "parkable" for the winter months. The neo's are gonna have to earn their keep.
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Old 16th Mar 2023, 09:52
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Originally Posted by garry8g
According to Jethro's today, a further three 2nd hand B737-800's are due to Jet2 this year.

All three are currently at Shannon, are ex Flyr, and are all around the 9.5-10 year old.

G-JZDA - ex LN-FGA
G-JZDB - ex LN-FGC
G-JZDC - ex LN-FGB

Quite a few 2nd hand additions to the fleet this year.
See Teesside thread!
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Old 17th Mar 2023, 11:36
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Looks like there is movement on this subject. Someone is in talks over 2 frames currently at Kemble with a view to stripping out the plush seating and replacing with Acro series 9 fixed back seats. Looks like this will give 568 economy seating.
Frame Nos G-CIVC and one other

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Old 17th Mar 2023, 11:45
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Looks like there is movement on this subject. Someone is in talks over 2 frames currently at Kemble with a view to stripping out the plush seating and replacing with Acro series 9 fixed back seats. Looks like this will give 568 economy seating.
Frame Nos G-CIVC and one other
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Old 17th Mar 2023, 11:48
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Originally Posted by leadinghand
Looks like there is movement on this subject. Someone is in talks over 2 frames currently at Kemble with a view to stripping out the plush seating and replacing with Acro series 9 fixed back seats. Looks like this will give 568 economy seating.
Frame Nos G-CIVC and one other
G-CIVC has been scrapped at St Athan..?
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Old 17th Mar 2023, 15:27
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Originally Posted by leadinghand
Looks like there is movement on this subject. Someone is in talks over 2 frames currently at Kemble with a view to stripping out the plush seating and replacing with Acro series 9 fixed back seats. Looks like this will give 568 economy seating.
Frame Nos G-CIVC and one other
You're a couple of weeks too early with this one
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Old 17th Mar 2023, 20:24
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Originally Posted by leadinghand
Looks like there is movement on this subject. Someone is in talks over 2 frames currently at Kemble with a view to stripping out the plush seating and replacing with Acro series 9 fixed back seats. Looks like this will give 568 economy seating.
Frame Nos G-CIVC and one other
interesting development, I knew there was questions asked at a recent conference surrounding why type rating for some ex E4-B flyers was being completed by USAF maybe here is the answer
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Old 18th Mar 2023, 07:11
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Not sure why any of this is on the Jet2 thread?
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Old 18th Mar 2023, 09:46
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Originally Posted by P330
Not sure why any of this is on the Jet2 thread?
Iím so confused!
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Old 18th Mar 2023, 10:35
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G-CIVC

Leadinghand, I have to ask, are you on drugs? Why would LS want that airframe? Especially as it was converted into baked bean tins in Jan 2020.
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Old 19th Mar 2023, 21:45
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I had family members travel recently on a flight that was delayed just over 3 hours. They completed claim forms and the compensation was paid out in a few days, no questions asked and no hassle. Why can they all not behave properly?
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The third B737-800 ex SAS (LN-RRF) currently on route from Oslo to Manchester, due at 11:41.
To eventually be re-registered G-JZBV.

The first ex FLYR B737-800 (G-JZDA) flew Shannon to EMA for painting yesterday.

The second ex FLYR B737-800 (G-JZDB) is due to fly Shannon to Teeside for pre-delivery checks today.
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Old 21st Mar 2023, 11:22
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Pleasant flight with Jet2 on Saturday LGW-TFS. This was a whole aircraft charter for P&O Cruises. Jet2 seem to be encroaching into what has been largely a Tui operation over recent years. It still is on long hauls (mainly to BGI) but there were lots of a/c substitutions over the Winter (mainly using Wamos) which didn't go down well with some of P&Os customers. Wondering if Jet2 will muscle in on this aswell with the A330's? (although it is mainly a winter op)
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Old 25th Mar 2023, 01:17
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The first Jet2 A321NEO is undergoing ground testing at Hamburg under test registration D-AVYK (Jet2.com registration will be G-SUNB) - delivery date is not yet confirmed, and no sectors have been scheduled thus far up until mid-June, so it might be a while before it enters revenue service.

It's planned for Holidays livery, and I imagine all of the new aircraft will have this due to Jet2's focus on the package holiday sector - I imagine eventually we'll see fewer .com liveries in the fleet as aircraft are repainted, retired, or returned. The airline already has a majority of Holidays capacity with flight-only bookings taking a smaller percentage of seats.
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Old 25th Mar 2023, 10:58
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Originally Posted by Chizzleface
The first Jet2 A321NEO is undergoing ground testing at Hamburg under test registration D-AVYK (Jet2.com registration will be G-SUNB) - delivery date is not yet confirmed, and no sectors have been scheduled thus far up until mid-June, so it might be a while before it enters revenue service.

It's planned for Holidays livery, and I imagine all of the new aircraft will have this due to Jet2's focus on the package holiday sector - I imagine eventually we'll see fewer .com liveries in the fleet as aircraft are repainted, retired, or returned. The airline already has a majority of Holidays capacity with flight-only bookings taking a smaller percentage of seats.
Presumably, the NEO has the same number of seats as the CEO and could therefore start work straight away on routes scheduled with these?
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Old 25th Mar 2023, 11:14
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Originally Posted by P330
Presumably, the NEO has the same number of seats as the CEO and could therefore start work straight away on routes scheduled with these?
The NEO has 232 seats, the CEO has 220.
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