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In a statement, a spokesperson for the airline said: "Our Bristol route was initially planned as a summer 21 service only as a result of the demand for UK staycations. That said we were hopeful that bookings would be strong enough to extend its operation into the winter season. Regrettably, that has not been the case."
Teesside Airport echoed that the route between the region and Bristol had been planned to operate for the summer. A spokesperson said: “Bristol was always a summer route to meet the increased demand for staycations this year."
Teesside Airport echoed that the route between the region and Bristol had been planned to operate for the summer. A spokesperson said: “Bristol was always a summer route to meet the increased demand for staycations this year."
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Some perspective on the loss of Bristol. Loganair suspended their daily direct BRS-ABZ route last year due to COVID and when things picked up a bit, they tagged a Bristol leg onto the Teesside-Aberdeen flight (so it went ABZ-MME-BRS-MME-ABZ) while the plane could be otherwise waiting at Teesside. This meant that Bristol passengers could still get to Aberdeen (with a wait on the tarmac at Teesside), the Teesside-Aberdeen plane would be more efficient as it would carry more people and as a bonus there was a standalone Teesside-Bristol flight for people to book.
Loganair now feel that it is time to bring back the direct BRS-ABS route but clearly feel that there is little point in running the MME-BRS leg as well (as they need to focus on filling the newly reintroduced direct service and few ex-BRS passengers will choose the stopping service at Teesside over a direct flight).
The MME-BRS route does not appear to stand up in its own right so Loganair instead are now tagging on a Southampton leg onto one of the Teesside-Aberdeen flights (will be ABZ-MME-SOU-MME-ABZ). This means that Southampton locals can now get to Aberdeen without changing planes, the Teesside-Aberdeen flights get a bit of feed from Southampton and Teesside gets a new route as a by-product.
Disappointing of course to lose Bristol (and to not get the Southampton replacement until next year) but this is more about the BRS-ABZ demand than the number of people wanting to fly between Teesside and Bristol.
Loganair now feel that it is time to bring back the direct BRS-ABS route but clearly feel that there is little point in running the MME-BRS leg as well (as they need to focus on filling the newly reintroduced direct service and few ex-BRS passengers will choose the stopping service at Teesside over a direct flight).
The MME-BRS route does not appear to stand up in its own right so Loganair instead are now tagging on a Southampton leg onto one of the Teesside-Aberdeen flights (will be ABZ-MME-SOU-MME-ABZ). This means that Southampton locals can now get to Aberdeen without changing planes, the Teesside-Aberdeen flights get a bit of feed from Southampton and Teesside gets a new route as a by-product.
Disappointing of course to lose Bristol (and to not get the Southampton replacement until next year) but this is more about the BRS-ABZ demand than the number of people wanting to fly between Teesside and Bristol.
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I presume that Loganair also want to tap in to the cruise market, round about £150 return, as apposed to £110 ret by coach from Washington services. Downside is the taxi fare from Southampton to the cruise terminal. Maybe Loganair could come up with a package deal with the likes of P and O and others.
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Hangar 3 West has been emptied of residents temporarily to allow work to take place. There is an ongoing rumour that a new operation is to move into H3W, with the GA being moved into some new builds. Not sure whether the work is related or not.
A lot of cruise companies offer free transport from the NE now..I know I’ve used it!
The cruise market is in limbo at the moment and what there is from Southampton is very limited due to initial sailing time.
Norway etc is much better served from the Tyne as you get an extra 2 days..
Another downside is the baggage allowance..most people I know take 25 kgs plus..of course there is no limit on the ship! Would think that will be a huge drawback with Loganair?
In a nut shell ,there might not be many cruise passengers using the service..unless the mayor knows differently?
The cruise market is in limbo at the moment and what there is from Southampton is very limited due to initial sailing time.
Norway etc is much better served from the Tyne as you get an extra 2 days..
Another downside is the baggage allowance..most people I know take 25 kgs plus..of course there is no limit on the ship! Would think that will be a huge drawback with Loganair?
In a nut shell ,there might not be many cruise passengers using the service..unless the mayor knows differently?
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KLM’s messy schedule of 1 flight a day, 3-4 times a week will now continue through to early December.
The old 3 daily schedule, pushed back countless times, now is programmed to start c7th Dec.
The old 3 daily schedule, pushed back countless times, now is programmed to start c7th Dec.
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The situation is not helped by the erratic Loganair LHR schedule. Next week I need to go to Copenhagen, no 7am Heathrow flight (or the 6am AMS either) so I am up the A1 to go from Newcastle. However, coming back, there is no late afternoon LHR-NCL flight either so I am flying back to Teesside - no massive problem but this means I need to get a taxi to NCL on Tuesday morning rather than drive there. The BA codeshare does give some options but a consistent timetable would be a massive help.
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Given the fact that they could accomodate "around 80 passengers" from Leeds on a 100-seat aircraft the other day, you can maybe see why. Given tigertanaka's comments, might be a bit chicken and egg (flights would be busier if there were more of them), but KLM have been doing this a while!
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Given the fact that they could accomodate "around 80 passengers" from Leeds on a 100-seat aircraft the other day, you can maybe see why. Given tigertanaka's comments, might be a bit chicken and egg (flights would be busier if there were more of them), but KLM have been doing this a while!
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https://www.facebook.com/TeessideInternational/posts/4530259440337890
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19586191.ryanair/
Would the airport have reacted if Teesside was NOT one of the bases? At worst, we can expect routes from some of the 10?
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19586191.ryanair/
Would the airport have reacted if Teesside was NOT one of the bases? At worst, we can expect routes from some of the 10?
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Ryanair
Ryanair have started to load the flights for next summer - all the same frequency as this Summer, with timing changes for Alicante and Palma, Faro exactly the same, and no Corfu as yet - timings don't suggest a base although I did notice that the Newcastle flights from Palma and Alicante are flown with aircraft based at Palma and Alicante.
How about Jet2, would they ever come to Teesside?
How about Jet2, would they ever come to Teesside?
The problem for MME with both Jet2 and Ryanair is the bases at LBA and NCL. There are probably examples in other areas where there are clusters of bases, but the North East isn't the richest of regions. NCL hasn't recovered pax numbers from the financila slump in 2007 - the only major airport in the UK that hasn't - and that's with MME being at a low ebb. The north east is also squeezed by EDI and LBA which have grown tremendously in the last 20 years, and have bigger/richer local markets.
The best thing Mayor Ben can do for MME is to improve the local economy, which will increase the propensity/ability of north easterners to fly.
The best thing Mayor Ben can do for MME is to improve the local economy, which will increase the propensity/ability of north easterners to fly.
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Not sure the airport could support another low cost carrier and sometimes feel this thread gets rather ahead of itself. Catchment is relatively small and already has major overlaps with NCL and LBA
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Yes I agree with your comment, however, if given the chance would the people who live in the NCL and LBA overlap areas, travel from MME. To me walking in the front door and a 100 yards to the back door to climb on a flight, is just what I want.
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New business plan mentions a new freight facility "later this year" and the Mayor has said on his social media new routes are starting in April. Despite claiming progress the south-side doesn't appear to be any further ahead than any of the previous attempts and projected passenger numbers have been scaled back.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...ngers-21625977
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...ngers-21625977